• gaael@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    But I like feeling like a real manly man when I eat my real manly meat in a real manly way with my real manly bros, surely that’s worth a few hundreds thousands human lives a year ?

    (And btw, plant-based diets could also save 100 million animal lives a year)

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      7 months ago

      I think it you want to see the environmental benefits, is less of saving animal lives and more ensuring that 100 million animals a year never exist?

      Edit: Not sure what is controversial about this. We stop eating meat to stop farming of livestock. No livestock lives are saved, just new animals aren’t born into the mincer.

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          Two animals farting methane is worse than one, but also, fewer energy transformations.

          Sun -> Plant -> Human
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          Sun -> Plant -> Cow -> Human

          It’s just physics.

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              7 months ago

              When you buy flesh they just use that money to make more cows.

              When you stop buying flesh they stop making more cows.

              That’s just economics. Now say some more glib bullshit to show how deeply unserious you are.

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                7 months ago

                Both problems can be addressed at once. Eat all the bovine, and stop breeding bovine…

                The problem will never be solved just by avoiding meat. Eat all the meat!

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                7 months ago

                Also, if you follow my instructions, eat all the meat, then cows go extinct, which fixes the majority of the bovine methane issue.

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      All plant-based foods, whole-foods or not, have lower emissions than animal products

      EDIT with a source:

      Transitioning to plant-based diets (PBDs) has the potential to reduce diet-related land use by 76%, diet-related greenhouse gas emissions by 49%, eutrophication by 49%, and green and blue water use by 21% and 14%, respectively, whilst garnering substantial health co-benefits

      […]

      Plant-based foods have a significantly smaller footprint on the environment than animal-based foods. Even the least sustainable vegetables and cereals cause less environmental harm than the lowest impact meat and dairy products [9].

      https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/8/1614/htm

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    7 months ago

    200,000 extra people alive? I’m sure they’ll be happy but that’s going to do a lot of environmental damage from meeting their needs and other activity

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      7 months ago

      If that 200k includes you, do you mind not being saved so that you won’t be the cause to environmental damage?

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      It’s not possible to make them free. Do you think plants grow on trees? Don’t be ridiculous

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    7 months ago

    But if people don’t eat the cows, then there will be more methane, ammonia, etc in the air.

    Seems to me we should be eating more meat to reduce the cow population. Either that, or convince the farmers to breed less cows.

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