• NightShot@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    “Solved homelessness”

    Hardworking people got more shitty neigbours… Thats not a solution, its just moving the problem inside.

    We have this shit in sweden and I have observed it up close. Fucker didn’t want to work nor get clean. He was comfortable with his daycare for adults… They have this thing called work training - building products that no one buys to practice working…

    Had a contact that could get him a job, he just said thats for idiots and I’m not and an idiot. Rather do his work training than get a real job and a real salary…

    He’s dead now, killed him self with an overdoze from the anxiety medicine they prescribed to him.

    So these things looks good on paper, but in real life not so much. Hope he’s and exception and not the rule.

    I personally dont believe in it, I was on the same path once. Some hard truths got me on the right path again, worked hard, took alot of shit and today cant recognize my old self.

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      6 months ago

      They solved his immediate problem of being homeless. I’d rather have a few shitty neighbors than to have people living and dying because they lack shelter.

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        I wouldn’t take this comment as anything but an anecdote. This is how some homeless people can be, so the take away is that the homelessness problem cannot be completely solved with housing. Some people are just cripplingly dysfunctional. They need more than housing, they need care takers. Just handing out keys to an apartment next to families to a dysfunctional drug addict who will smoke, vandalize and play loud music at night is not fair to the neighbors. These are normal middle-class people complaining, not some billionaire who can’t stand the sight of a peasant lol.

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      6 months ago

      I can see how a single case you experienced delegitimize the whole system.

      To be fair, we have the same system and I never had someone like that as a neighbor. So it is a flawless system.

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      Avoiding having shitty neighbors is definitely a good reason to have people piss, shit and die in the streets. Good point there.

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      6 months ago

      I’d rather have any one of these people as my neighbor than one of those “hard working” nepobabies.

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      And his life would have been even worse if he was on the street. I honestly don’t see the problem in this story. Someone with mental health issues had a place to live? Ended up dying to suicide? It’s a sad story but also the housing doesn’t seem at fault at all?

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        6 months ago

        Just saying its a waste of time and money. And he took someone elses spot in a crowded housing market.

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          1. ideally like everyone has access to housing so there’s no “taking up space”?

          2. how do you know it was a waste of time? maybe he has loved ones who he supported and brightened the loved ones, maybe if his mental health were better supported he would have thrived? not everything is about working. his life was not a waste of time, and even if he died, I’m sure it was better to die having housing than to die on the street, forgotten and discarded.

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            1. Dont agree, in a big city with demand bigger than the supply. So many people had to stand aside for people like him to not pay rent on time, get evicted for drinking. Its not fair.
            2. We all tried our best, but he was just selfish and didnt want to change nor be a grownup. His daughter just wasted 10 years waiting for the call or the ring on the door until it came.
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              If there’s a program that is supposed to provide housing for everyone, and there aren’t enough houses … it’s the government’s fault for the wait list, not the individual.

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      i’m genuinely happy you were able to get yourself together.

      just know that there are any number of reasons someone else might not have your strength or capacity for change, or might not yet have reached a readiness for change like you did.

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