“John [Eastman] and Rudy [Giuliani] gave a lot of counsel,” one Trump advisor says ominously. “Other people can decide how sound it was”
How much does anyone want to bet this will backfire when Eastman and Ghouliani flip and throw him under the bus? I think Ghouliani already entered into a proffer agreement, so he may have already decided not to trust the least loyal boss I’m the world.
It still amazes me how Trump keeps finding people that’ll work for him and somehow expect him to stay loyal to them, despite all evidence to the contrary.
Because they think they are smarter than the rubes who already got duped, are sure they’re one of the ‘good ones’ in trumps eyes and won’t get fucked over, or want to be a name in the right wing grift and are rolling the dice on coming out ahead once they can ebeg to all the rubes who support these chucklefucks.
It’s like gambling on a stock. You can buy in on the way up and as long as you bail at the right time you can come out on top. Stay just a little too long, though, and you’ll come away worse than you started.
Any examples of people who didn’t get burnt and ended up ahead?
Well… me, I guess. I’ve made about a hundred thousand, here or there, but I’ll admit I’m an outlier most likely.
Guiliani did enter into a proffer. He’s cooperating.
I like the tactic. Scapegoat them so they can be tried as well and end up in a cell right next to him. Counsel can be given, acting on it and unleashing a hoard of your MAGA retards on Washington DC is another thing entirely. Where are his kids? They need to be charged too!!
“My attorneys had a productive meeting with the DOJ this morning, explaining in detail that I did nothing wrong, was advised by many lawyers, and that an Indictment of me would only further destroy our Country,” the (so far) twice-indicted former president posted to his social media website last week.
I wonder if this sticks. If this does stick, it becomes a huge talking point for him being a weak, ineffectual non-leader. He could actually be throwing himself under the bus, politically speaking.
Honestly MAGA doesn’t care about that. Trump is a strongman to them; nothing that says differently will sway their opinion.
Putin playing hockey in his late 60’s and “scoring” all those goals against the professional hockey players is such an illusion. And so is the Strongman Trump pretends to be, until he is asked to serve in the military, then he has bone spurs. Ow ow ow.
He is a criminal who worked with Republicans to steal the election from the people.
This is an interesting inversion of the fascist doctrine that the enemy are both really strong and also really weak. Only here Trump and co are applying to themselves – they’re both super powerful and the only hope and also completely weak and ineffectual and always being led astray by the deep state or poor guidance from their own lawyers.
I wonder if this will work as well on their followers.
Won’t hurt with his fans. They don’t care that he did it, they don’t care that he’s lying.
He might prefer that to being thrown in jail. Either way we win.
this feels like the prisoners dilemma playing out on the front page
Trump has shown time and time again that he has no problem throwing anyone under the bus if it’s in his interests. Choosing to trust him in a prisoner’s dilemma is totally foolish, he’s definitively proven himself untrustworthy.
Yeah, no. Sure Co-Conspirators 1 and 2 gave a lot of counsel. And a fuck ton more other people gave counsel that contradicted them. Trump chose to listen to who he chose to listen to.
Knowing Trump, I am not shocked.
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Other people can decide how sound it was
That’s not going to work at all. It was Trump’s job to decide that how sound their advice was & for every lawyer encouraging criminality, there were two more telling him that this was illegal.