• Jennie@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 months ago

    That’s exactly why Zionists are saying Jewish people like me are traitors to Judaism and that I give them a bad name, right?

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    4 months ago

    “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for Jewish children.” “Anti zionist is code-word for anti Jew”

    How far off are these people from neonazis?

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    They refuse to say Israelis, and instead say Zionists

    Because ‘Israeli’ is just a meme nationality, like Ruritanian or Kekistani, and under no circumstances should Israel (Jewry) be confused with the oligarchic neocolony occupying Palestine.

    They over-represent the few Jews or Israelis who are willing to sell their own people either for money or social media clout (see: Norman Finklestein)

    If they wanted either, they could have sided with Zionism. Also, I don’t know about anybody else here, but suggesting that Jews would only side with Palestine because they want money or ‘social media clout’ strikes me as pretty fucking bigoted.

    Changing definition of words such as apartheid or genocide to specifically fit Israel

    How?

    Justify violence against Jews in other countries who have nothing to do with Israel because they are ‘Zionists’

    What the fuck is the author talking about now?

    As obvious as it is to most readers of this post, Anti Zionism is just as a mask for Anti Semitism

    You know, I could easily repeat myself in response to this forced meme, but rather than doing that I’ll share this instead:

    There’s an amusing […] video in which a journalist presents a number of [Hebrew‐speaking] students with a quote from Herzl and asks who they thought wrote it. Every one of them says Hitler. They are shocked to discover the truth; the Herzl they’d learned about in school could not have written such an antisemitic statement. This is the quote: “an excellent idea enters my mind —  to attract outright antisemites and make them destroyers of Jewish wealth.”

    The journalist and peace activist Uri Avnery referred to Herzl’s writings as having, in places, ‘a strongly antisemitic odour’. Indeed they do. Try this for example (describing the attendees at a Berlin soiree in 1885): “Some thirty or forty ugly little Jews and Jewesses. No consoling sight.” Clearly Herzl didn’t like Jews much.

    I’ll give Zionists this much: they have tremendous audacity to call us antisemitic while they honour a separatist snob who willingly associated with a Finance Minister who would have committed his own Shoah if he knew how. I’d have to be stoned out of my mind to think that that’s a good idea.

    There is a very real and coordinated effort to both make Zionism look like something akin to N*zism

    I’ll admit that before October 7, 2023 I discussed Zionism and its ties to Fascism only infrequently, but taking inspiration from the news to talk about certain histories is simply part of how I operate: the Ustaše’s extermination of Serbs and others could easily remind us of news about the neocolonial extermination of Palestinians, so it generates some interest.

    Likewise, since modern Zionism is an ethnonationalist, neoimperialist, and militarist phenomenon, it’s only natural that anticolonial Jews and others would remember German Fascism when they see Zionist atrocities. Jews likening the neocolony to a Fascist empire is actually quite an old phenomenon, as I documented in my thread formally comparing Zionism and German Fascism.

    Make it look like all Jews are Zionists (therefore it’s fine to hurt them) and at the same time some Jews are Anti Zionist (therefore hatred against Zionists is not hatred against Jews)

    I really have no interest in harming anticolonial Jews like Jewish Currents, JVP, Jewish Voice for Labour, Independent Jewish Voices Canada, NKUSA, and others, for obvious reasons (obvious except to Zionists, apparently). Physically hurting ordinary Zionists also sounds a little excessive to me, as inconveniencing and annoying them instead usually suffices (and is more fun). As for Zionist politicians, though… let’s just say that I have better things to worry about than whatever strikes their heads.

    Which leads eventually to that, when the day will come, and they get what they want and just like the 7th of October, slaughter a large amount of Jews, be it in Israel or diaspora, they will be able to justify it as “They weren’t Jews, they were just Zionists” “They deserved it for X and Y”

    Yup, and I’m sure that it’s only a matter of time before antifa supersoldiers round up healthy white families, under the pretext that they were ‘fascist’, and massacre them all!

    End of my rant, what do you guys think?

    Stop posting.