Why would you restrict the opportunities of children then? That fucks them over more than the parents, and speaking of which, there are also many non-conservative parents in Florida.
By not allowing them to receive the basic education requirements to attend college level classes their parents are the ones fucking them over, this would just be a consequence of that…
I really enjoy how everyone on this platform circlejerks about helping the poor and then advocates fucking over kids who’s parents can’t afford to leave Florida
A large section of Floridians do not vote for Ron Desantis and are subject to things like gerrymandering which prevent their votes from mattering in the first place. Most of the people who do vote for these policies are people who place no value whatsoever on education in the first place. Your policy would end up fucking over an entire state based on the actions of a minority of its residents.
Marco Rubio got almost 58% of the vote in 2022. DeSantis got over 59%. Moody got over 60%. Patronis 59.5%. Simpson 59%. All statewide races. 59.36% of FL House race votes went to Republicans. 60.07% of FL Senate race votes went to Republicans. Across the board and with remarkable consistency, 60% of your neighbors have voted to gut your education system and teach your kids fantasies. Don’t shoot the messenger.
This can be attributed to the fact that Democrats have completely abandoned the idea of campaigning in Florida and the fact that the Florida government is well-known to engage in voter suppression efforts.
Majority. A clear majority. And it’s their actions that are fucking over your entire state, not mine.
Nearly half of Floridians don’t even vote for various reasons including but not limited to voter suppression, so nah, it’s a minority of residents. I’m also highly doubtful that colleges not accepting high school diplomas from an entire state would even be considered legal, so I think I’ll be fine.
I’ll sum up this hard truth with an analogy: “You must be this tall to ride this rollercoaster” has nothing to do with punishing short kids. It prevents injury to short kids.
The thing is, letting kids with sub-par K-12 education into higher ed isn’t doing them any favors. It sets them up for potentially devastating failure. Many of them will be so far behind that they’ll fail within the first year. It’s not that they’re not smart, or they’re not hard workers. They simply lack the foundation that their peers already have. They’ll need remedial coursework before they can even try to re-take the standard curriculum. Or they may be able to limp through some basic classes before failing a year later.
Imagine that scenario for all the kids in an entire state.
And to continue your point - you’re right that poor kids are punished. They’re punished all across the US, but it has nothing to do with whether they’re admitted to university. It’s because their K-12 schools are funded by local property taxes. Rich districts get good schools with better teachers, and access to better materials and opportunities. Poor districts have few resources, more (on average) parental apathy towards education, and poorer outcomes. Even the top ranked kids from poor schools may struggle when they reach college.
Florida is trying to expand that disadvantage to an entire state. The fact that out of state admission officers will look at a HS degree from Florida the same way they’d look at one from a homeschooled kid isn’t a suggestion or a proposal. It’s a fact.
I really enjoy how people like you feel self-important while doing nothing but complaining.
You want to help the kids? Overturn or undermine Desantis’s fucked up policies now, while those kids you’re parading around have a chance. Set up tutoring servers on Discord. Set up online libraries full of banned books and spread the links everywhere. Be the change you want to see in the world. But don’t you dare complain about institutions enforcing basic education standards on its students.
Institutions rejecting me because I got my diploma from Florida is a direct threat to my future. It’s not possible for me to do anything about Ron DeSantis other than vote and encourage other people to vote, all of what you’re suggesting involves time and effort which I don’t have and can’t give.
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Why would you restrict the opportunities of children then? That fucks them over more than the parents, and speaking of which, there are also many non-conservative parents in Florida.
By not allowing them to receive the basic education requirements to attend college level classes their parents are the ones fucking them over, this would just be a consequence of that…
Most of our parents don’t have anything to do with Ron DeSantis’s laws, we just live here.
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I really enjoy how everyone on this platform circlejerks about helping the poor and then advocates fucking over kids who’s parents can’t afford to leave Florida
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A large section of Floridians do not vote for Ron Desantis and are subject to things like gerrymandering which prevent their votes from mattering in the first place. Most of the people who do vote for these policies are people who place no value whatsoever on education in the first place. Your policy would end up fucking over an entire state based on the actions of a minority of its residents.
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This can be attributed to the fact that Democrats have completely abandoned the idea of campaigning in Florida and the fact that the Florida government is well-known to engage in voter suppression efforts.
Nearly half of Floridians don’t even vote for various reasons including but not limited to voter suppression, so nah, it’s a minority of residents. I’m also highly doubtful that colleges not accepting high school diplomas from an entire state would even be considered legal, so I think I’ll be fine.
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I’ll sum up this hard truth with an analogy: “You must be this tall to ride this rollercoaster” has nothing to do with punishing short kids. It prevents injury to short kids.
The thing is, letting kids with sub-par K-12 education into higher ed isn’t doing them any favors. It sets them up for potentially devastating failure. Many of them will be so far behind that they’ll fail within the first year. It’s not that they’re not smart, or they’re not hard workers. They simply lack the foundation that their peers already have. They’ll need remedial coursework before they can even try to re-take the standard curriculum. Or they may be able to limp through some basic classes before failing a year later.
Imagine that scenario for all the kids in an entire state.
And to continue your point - you’re right that poor kids are punished. They’re punished all across the US, but it has nothing to do with whether they’re admitted to university. It’s because their K-12 schools are funded by local property taxes. Rich districts get good schools with better teachers, and access to better materials and opportunities. Poor districts have few resources, more (on average) parental apathy towards education, and poorer outcomes. Even the top ranked kids from poor schools may struggle when they reach college.
Florida is trying to expand that disadvantage to an entire state. The fact that out of state admission officers will look at a HS degree from Florida the same way they’d look at one from a homeschooled kid isn’t a suggestion or a proposal. It’s a fact.
I really enjoy how people like you feel self-important while doing nothing but complaining.
You want to help the kids? Overturn or undermine Desantis’s fucked up policies now, while those kids you’re parading around have a chance. Set up tutoring servers on Discord. Set up online libraries full of banned books and spread the links everywhere. Be the change you want to see in the world. But don’t you dare complain about institutions enforcing basic education standards on its students.
Institutions rejecting me because I got my diploma from Florida is a direct threat to my future. It’s not possible for me to do anything about Ron DeSantis other than vote and encourage other people to vote, all of what you’re suggesting involves time and effort which I don’t have and can’t give.
You can always go to online college out of state. Learn everything online.
🤔 We need education subs.