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    There is some legitimate reasons for it, but not likely to ever be the case. Larger vehicles may damage their driveway if it’s older or not as well built. So it works for their sedan, but an f-150 or a EV could irreparably damage it. People wouldn’t ever think of that, it’s like driving on their grass basically. Who does that?

    It’s their private property, they do have a right to protect from damage from people entering it, but not to death.

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      Protect as in “put up a sign”, sure. But I can’t justify any amount of force to protect someone’s driveway.

      If your driveway is damaged by using it as a driveway, then it’s already too late and you need a new one. You have no control over what delivery people are driving, or any number or legitimate public service workers who might need to stop at your house.

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        No delivery driver pulls up on driveways anywhere I have been, and you can request them not too as well. Lots will damage driveways due their weight (see below), so policy is to avoid for liability reasons.

        And same as above for public service workers as well, you can request stuff too.

        And that’s actually not true, lots of driveways aren’t able to handle EV weight, the standard 3.5-4” isn’t strong enough. It’ll damage very quickly. It’s not brought up enough to be honest.

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          EVs aren’t uniformly heavier than ice vehicles. Median weight is 2145kg vs 1768kg for ice. Your driveway should be able to hold around 8000 lbs, or 3600 kg. Basically the only ev you need to worry about is an electric Hummer.

          And, again, if you feel your driveway can’t be used as a driveway, it’s already broken. The point of the thing is for people to put cars on it.
          You’re welcome to put signs up on your own property for whatever you like, but you look silly getting upset for something like that.

          It’s like putting up a sign demanding that people don’t knock on your door because if they do it’ll fall off the hinges. It’s your right, but don’t be surprised if people don’t look for the sign, and maybe just get something that isn’t broken.

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              Weird, because “googling it” shows that every source says otherwise.

              Maybe you should check your recollection before spouting off about stuff so confidently.

              If 300kg makes that big a difference, your driveway is broken. Do you think your driveway is permanently damaged by something as extreme as “two cars” being parked on it?

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          Everyone but Amazon pulls into my driveway. I share a double wide driveway with the neighbours and the deliver drivers love it. Only time it’s been an issue was when a ambulance parked there for someone across the street and we couldn’t exit. Woe is me – someone is literally dying and I had a minor inconvenience. All in all, pretty happy with it.

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          Really? Our delivery drivers pull into the driveway all the time. Just had a FedEx truck in our driveway a few hours ago, in fact. Now that I think about it, Amazon trucks often stay at the street, but not always; my wife had to wait for one to leave the other day when she got home as Amazon was making a delivery.

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          you can request them not too as well.

          Not too what? Request them not too heavy…?

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      Lol if a F150 or EV damages your “driveway” it was never an actual driveway to begin with. As in, no it won’t damage a driveway. You’re thinking of a lawn.

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          Wear on road goes up by the fourth power. Do you have any idea what a fully loaded tractor trailer weighs? Consumer vehicles are not even a rounding error.

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              To, you know, build those houses you have those tractor trailers. And concrete trucks. In addition to transit buses, garbage trucks, moving and furniture trucks. Consumer vehicles are a rounding error.

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                Those are weight limited to feeder roads, only smaller versions of those can do down the actual residential roads. They aren’t built the same, no matter how much you want to claim and argue they are. Roads are built differently, and some have weight limits since the weight will absolutely destroy them.

                When you order concrete, they can’t always send the large trucks, it can cost more to do work on residential streets since they need to batch more vehicles and more drivers. If you aren’t in the industry, you probably wouldn’t know this, but the road construction differences are all over the NHTSA website if you want to learn something.

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                  Oh yeah no concrete trucks lol. Do you think they are weight limited to residential vehicles? Fucking lol. Doubt they could even do that empty. And you didn’t even touch all my other examples.

                  Dude at a certain point you have to admit you’re wrong and stop digging your hole. Seems you can’t here so cheers.

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                    There’s more than one type of concert truck dude… there’s tractor trailer (won’t send on residential roads) and a bodyjob. Which are legal for residential roads. One can hold more, so it weighs more, and would damage those roads, so they get fined if they send large vehicles down them. This isn’t a lie, this is a fact lmfao. And you want to claim it’s not? Read the NHTSA legislation, it’s all right there for you in ways to digest format.

                    They have more tires that have a larger footprint so its weight is distributed more, that’s what matters, not the weight, the psi it exerts onto the ground. You would be surprised to find they exert less force overall than other vehicles, but I know you won’t ever believe this lmfao.

                    Theres is also weight limited roads. Did you not learn about these during drivers ed…?

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          Michael Brooks, executive director of the nonprofit Center for Auto Safety

          How does this even make him qualified to be making such statements? Furthermore, my residential neighborhood is full of 25 year old driveways and big ass trucks like F350 diesels and nobody has damaged driveways.

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            You understand that some people cut corners and may not have the same quality of products yeah? That’s for them to decide, not you. Some people make their driveway out of paving stones FFS LMFAO.

            And some counties have different codes and standards, maybe where you live it’s 6” slabs and it’s fine, but lots of places are 3.5” driveways dude. And lots of places cut corners dropping it to even 3” or less. Without engineers verifying, it’s a crapshoot. And no one wants to pay for that for a resi driveway.

            Not everyone is going to have the same experiences as you lmfao.