How about direct confirmation from people who’ve lived through it, myself included? Language suppression and antisemitism were things that absolutely happened.
Do you have proof to the contrary?
Maybe go read some George Y Shevelov, or Zhenya Oliinyk, or Tanya Skubiak, or… There are MANY non western people that have written about this history. Shame on you for trying to hand wave that away.
How come my great grandma didn’t have any problems?
If we are trading anecdotes and so on. They are mutually intelligible languages, suddenly changing to english alphabet doesn’t make them incomprehensible to each other even now
Your favorite opera about cossack oppressors being banned? From that list egregious things are
A) not teaching in schools/then in 70s making salaries higher for russian language teachers (time doesn’t make sense in that sequence, but whatevs)
B)making dissertations in russian/ I assume not all national arts were some glorification of oppressor class
Thus we arrive at meh about language being banned, but solidly yes at it wasn’t encouraged/developed.
My great grandma lived through 30s-60s, spoke ukrainian for whatever it worth her whole life, was a math teacher if I remember correctly (don’t know what she taught it in, can ask relatives sometime)
How about direct confirmation from people who’ve lived through it, myself included? Language suppression and antisemitism were things that absolutely happened.
Do you have proof to the contrary?
Maybe go read some George Y Shevelov, or Zhenya Oliinyk, or Tanya Skubiak, or… There are MANY non western people that have written about this history. Shame on you for trying to hand wave that away.
How come my great grandma didn’t have any problems?
If we are trading anecdotes and so on. They are mutually intelligible languages, suddenly changing to english alphabet doesn’t make them incomprehensible to each other even now
What problems are you talking about? I don’t have to ask your grandma, I’m old enough to have lived through some of that stuff.
Your favorite opera about cossack oppressors being banned? From that list egregious things are A) not teaching in schools/then in 70s making salaries higher for russian language teachers (time doesn’t make sense in that sequence, but whatevs) B)making dissertations in russian/ I assume not all national arts were some glorification of oppressor class
Thus we arrive at meh about language being banned, but solidly yes at it wasn’t encouraged/developed.
My great grandma lived through 30s-60s, spoke ukrainian for whatever it worth her whole life, was a math teacher if I remember correctly (don’t know what she taught it in, can ask relatives sometime)
Stay ignorant then :).
okay actually like 20 points for not mentioning ann applebaum or timothy snyder