I can’t believe some of the points Linus made against the Fairphone, especially given he’s onboard with the same compromises for the Framework laptop. 🤭

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    Or their point about using a Qualcomm industrial chip instead of a Snapdragon chip as a point against Fairphone, when they have previously stated that it is to get a longer time of support.

    Of course the support is great, but some other phones also achieve that without a slow and old SoC.

    The Fairphone seems pretty nice in theory but the performance is pretty poor and the price is high.

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      Poor in comparison to what though? I know what the benchmarks say but I don’t really notice any differences between the Fairphone 5 (what I’m currently typing on) or my previous phones (Huawei Mate 10, Zenfone 6, Zenfone 8 Flip) in terms of daily driving (aside from battery maybe). I’m sure there is for gaming, but that’s the one thing I don’t use my phone for.

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        I haven’t used it personally but apparently it’s general usage is pretty slow.

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          All I can say is that has not been my experience and I am curious what exactly people think is slow about it.

          I could be entirely wrong, but it seems like some people are conflating benchmarks against current flagships as the day to day experience.

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      The Fairphone seems pretty nice in theory but the performance is pretty poor and the price is high.

      Peak performance was not a priority. I would argue most modern phones are far more powerful than is necessary for daily tasks, often at the cost of battery life.

      Also their test of using nothing but a constant YouTube video playback is not reflective of real-world use. Mrwhosetheboss (terrible name BTW) does much more realistic tests.

      The cost will necessarily be higher because they are not utilizing the absolute cheapest way of doing things. As stated in the video they specifically source providers who provide their workers a fair wage and sustainably-sourced materials. Hence the name.

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      What are people using their phones for that require such beefy processing power? I have a Fairphone 4, which presumably is slower than the Fairphone 5, and it is perfectly snappy for all my needs. Actually curious. Is it gaming?

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        Its gaming. I asked this in an old thread before and the response was gaming and emulation. Which is fair if you want the latest and greatest, but general usage on my fairphone 4 is snappy and fine so idk. I dont do gaming on my phone though :)

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        I dunno I just heard it was slow for general usage.

        But I also wonder why there exists so many phones that target mobile gaming with external fans and all that.

        What games are people playing that require a special gaming phone? Switch emulation or something is the only thing I can think of.

        Last I checked all mobile games ran perfectly fine on everything. I don’t really understand non-casual mobile gaming. If I want to play good games I play on a switch, steam deck, or I just wait until I get home and I play in the way I find most comfortable, i.e. using a mouse and keyboard.

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          Hehe yeah, mobile gaming seems awful to me as well. Never heard about external fans. Seems like going out of your way to have a sub-par gaming experience.

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            Asus called their fan (and sometimes water cooled I think) contraption" AeroActive Cooler [rev number here]" I think the phone opens up in some way so the fan (or water) works better. It’s pretty cool technology but seems entirely useless to me at least but I have no idea.

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          Fairphone 4 is not slow for general usage, but for gaming it can be slow depending on the load, ye.
          Gamecube emulation would be slower than latest and greatest, but those soc’s only have 4 years of support, and thats not up to fairphone’s standards

          Just like any hardware, it all depends what you use it for and what your requirements are.