Dallas County Sheriff Adam Infante said that school had not yet started when the shooting began.
“Luckily, so there were very few students and faculty in the building, which I think contributed to a good outcome in that sense,” he said at a news briefing.
Maybe it’s a bad selected quote but using the phrase “good outcome” because only 3 people were shot in a school is insane, to me.
This one won’t even make the cut as a mass shooting because not enough people were injured.
Way to go America.
Update: five injured, one killed. It counts as a mass shooting now.
Which is why we need to track school shootings in it’s own category.
Then people will complain that an accidental discharge in the school parking lot gets lumped in with this, or that mass shootings at schools get double counted because they’re mass shootings and school shootings, or some other nonsense to avoid admitting that there’s a problem.
I really don’t understand their “gang killings don’t count as mass killings” argument. Like somehow those are different because gangs?
The consensus is that people don’t care about gang members when it’s inter-gang violence. Aside from the obvious, the biggest issue with that stance is that more often than not it’s some 6 yr old bystander who’s shot through the wall of their house. Disgusting.
*edit fixed autocorrect
I feel like gang shootings would be a little more adversarial. Basically two groups with animosity towards the other coming to a head and the aggressor could be from either side. School shootings and other mass shootings are more vengeful and one sided.
That’s my take at least. Not that the loss of life isn’t tragic all the same.
Basically two groups with animosity towards the other coming to a head and the aggressor could be from either side.
Any time a group of cops shoot at someone it should probably count as a gang shooting.
I’m generally very anti-gun, but I can see the rationale behind separating gang killings. Just like separating out familicide from mass shootings where a person shoots their three kids, their wife, then themself. Not a mass shooting in the sense that the general public was at risk of being a target.
I kind of get it. Like we were focusing on the shootings where someone goes to a school, a mall, concert, etc, and just starts killing people. It’s still a shooting, and people still die, and it is unnecessary violence, but it’s still different. Similar to how if I, a white guy, kill a black man, it’s just murder… until I do it while screaming the n word. Now suddenly its different.
It also feels a little convenient in the aspect that people were pointing out how many of the mass shootings were done by white people… So then they add in gang shootings. Now more of them are done by other races.
Killed you mean, you could have 400 injured, it’s not a mass shooting if there is less than four death.
Four deaths would make it a mass killing. People being hit with bullets fired from a gun is a shooting even if they don’t die.
Wait until the government redefines the number high so the rates will go down.
Mission accomplished!
That noob never even went to a firing range to properly train to shoot kids. An embarrassment for the nation, really.
Yeah, but also when you do that you got to get the smaller targets all set up and people always want to small talk about what school you are shooting and why, and someone always ends up bringing up Jews…
I can see why you wouldn’t even bother going to the range to practice anymore. Such a hassle.
So now it is a “good outcome” if only a few kids get shot. Can America sink even lower? Just watch the daily series “School Shootings”, Mo-Fr in your news channel!
It’s a “good outcome” for the pro-gun community because it’s a small school shooting that should be easy to sneak under the rug.
It’s obviously a horrific outcome for the victims, students, their families and their teachers, but who gives a fuck about them? The killers dad was the only one profitable to the gun lobby and a font of power for Republicans.
Nunn, a Republican who represents Iowa’s 3rd Congressional District, added that he will continue to monitor the situation and that the “school is now secure.”
“We will not rest until there is full accountability for this heinous act of violence,” he said.
Ohh, he’s monitoring the situation. He won’t do anything to diminish the number of murder weapons that teenagers can get their hands on so they can vent their frustrations via bullets, but he’s keeping an eye on things. Great job. You want accountability? Take a look at yourself.
Ohh, he’s monitoring the situation.
Can we get a gif from the alien movie where the lieutenant is like, “I’m going in”, and the marine is like, " I feel safer already "
But it falls, just the same. What good is seeing it fall?
-The Mysterious Stranger
Clearly the answer is more teenagers with guns
“We will not rest until there is full accountability for this heinous act of violence,” he said.
The shooter killed himself, like so many do. What accountability is he expecting? Are they going to try and convict a corpse? Because he surely doesn’t mean real accountability against the gun lobbies or the politicians or the rabid supporters who have fostered and enabled this sort of thing for decades.
I wonder when we are going to have an awkward moment when two school shooters show up at the same time. “Oh you are also here to murder the 6 year olds during nap time?”
“nah I’m here for the 10 year olds, they run faster and make for better sport, anyway happy hunting!”
Police: “Don’t worry, we’ll wait until y’all are done in there. Our turn’s next, though!”
“awkward. One of us is going to have to change dates”
Totally unpreventable. We’ve tried nothing and we’re out of ideas. Investigators looking at motives (like it matters). Suspect had a troubled past, legally bought weapons. #[insert city name] strong. Thoughts and prayers. Like and subscribe. See you at the next one.
If only there were good students with guns this could have been prevented
If only the killer didn’t want to kill people.
If only the “responsible gun owner” didn’t leave a poorly secured firearm around a child who wanted to kill people.
Just the unfortunate cost of securing people’s right to commit mass murder
Humans are temperamental and angry by nature. So, combine that with guns (or almost any other inanimate object) and you have a recipe for total disaster. People use cars while high and kill people, they use bats and knives and other things as weapons. So - let’s give them a weapon designed specifically to kill (like guns) and surprise surprise, they go around killing people. Welcome to human nature 101.
When I get high I watch cartoons, sit on my couch, and eat peanut butter. The most damage I am doing to the world is my waistline.
Human nature isn’t natural, per se. Our nature is shaped by our society and culture and other humans’ natures. People in America are temperamental and angry because they have been made to be that way.
Are you telling me that rugged individualism and a society centered around it’s you vs everyone makes for a mentally unwell populace?
If that was the culprit there would be a lot more randomness though in the shooter. Instead it tends to be a certain demographic with certain politics in a certain religion.
pointing out the problem with gun violence in america is anti semitic - conservatives, probably
Why bother thinking of a good excuse when the reactionary votes and millions in gun-lobby “donations” will keep coming either way? Just say any old shit until it blows over.
Found the Antisemite! ;)
You guys need some new traditions over there.
Took four days, huh?
Cut the year some slack. Today was the first day of school. It’s hard to have a school shooting when school’s out.
So what you’re saying is it only took less than a day.
Correct. In fact, it seems that the casually numbers are low because shooter was early.
That’s where they went wrong. Always show up fashionably late when you want to attempt mass murder.
Correct. See: trenchcoats used at Columbine.
It pissed me off that it essentially got trench coats banned at high schools. I graduated in 1995 and my friends and I all wore black trench coats all through high school. I even had a leather one what I loved (I’ve actually been thinking about getting a mock leather trench coat recently). It was stupid enough that my high school had a no hat rule.
Oh, man. Yeah, I would be mad too. Especially after the dust settled and it turned out the Trench Coat Mafia was just harmless tech geeks (with the exception of the shooters, ofc), not Nazis and terrorists.
I’d say get the mock leather trenchcoat, and rock it.
Don’t worry, I’m sure there have been shootings elsewhere in the country that weren’t mass shootings within an hour of the New Year
Less than a day, if we only count the days when school is in session.
I wonder when american mass shootings will stop being front page news. Treated more like a car crash or something. minor local news. The US as a country has obviously decided that this is acceptable and i assume it should be treated as such.
As an outsider it’s fucking bizarre to witness.
No, Republican politicians and a minority of voters have decided it’s acceptable, and because of our convoluted and poorly designed political system, the rest of us are forced to put up with it.
Indeed. Gun control is actually extremely popular if you just look at polling.
Oh it’s already covered in the same breath as the real housewives drama from my SO. It’s barely cared about. I don’t think anyone actually even feels sad about anymore except for some of the families involved. Just another day in the life of the greatest dream.
Anger has replaced any sense of sadness and people are running out of anger too. Apathy. Self indulgent apathy is all we will have left. And fear that someone might take away their nice things. A country of children parading as adults as children die… How could you not look at it and weep.
Like the school shooting dinner table discussion in South Park. Spoilers – Stan’s mom flips out over the local school shooting, and Stan’s dad asks her if she’s overreacting because she’s on her period.
I’d link it, but I’m on mobile.
Thank you very much for that!
I feel like it’s barely front page news as it is. Like this is the only thing I’m seeing about this shooting. Last night on TikTok I found out about a shooting at a bar, what’s the deadliest shooting in Maine to date. Happened on Oct 25th. I found out about it yesterday. 18 people killed, 13 injured. Still took me that long to see anything about it. Back when the Sandy Hook hooting happened, it was all over in minutes, and we didn’t stop hearing about it for months. Now we might not hear about it at all.
For the curious, I looked it up. The reason he had access to a 6th grader to shoot in a High School is that it and the Middle School are really one big building in this case - so while it was a High School, it was also a Middle School.
This article lists a possible motive - years of bullying with the school admin refusing to do anything about it. I never did understand why none of my public schools ever did anything about my bullies. As an adult, if any of them tried it I’d call the police and use pepper spray - both banned actions in my schools.
Calling the police is a banned action??
Principals avoid taking actions that will put their campus in a negative light. They will call the police only when the situation cannot be hidden from the public such as a gun, assault with a weapon, or criminal trespassing. Teachers can only enforce the policies that the admin are willing to enforce. They’re also discouraged from pressing charges under that of losing their job.
American schools are prisons first, education centers second.
Of course, they would just shoot people.
Or post up outside the school until the shooter finishes shooting people.
Schools typically wait until there’s already a School Shooter before letting more in!
Killer was trans as well. Watch how fast this leaves the news cycle.
Oh fuck. Once Trans people start shooting back, America is completely fucked.
They’ll be pushing for gun control faster than when the blacks started championing for gun rights.
I’ll let you determine if this comment is sarcasm or not.
i highly doubt it. most trans people can’t handle being called “sir” when their adam’s apple is prominent, let alone firing a weapon.
Easy access to arms WITHOUT rigour, training and monitoring leads to savage atrocities. Some clowns will highlight European countries with a similar gun ownership rate, but then fail to understand why we don’t have those same atrocities.
I can save a pro-gun cultist the effort and just fill in this comment chain in advance:
Cultist: “Shall not be infringed”
Sane people: “Well regulated”
Cultist: "Well regulated doesn’t mean subjected to regulations like background checks and not hitting your wife, it means well-functioning, like a watch
Sane people: “It’s not that either. Your militia has no training or physical fitness standards, may never had to demonstrate safe and competent handling of their weapon and has an open contempt for the chain of command”
Cultist: “No but its a mental health problem”
Sane people: “Okay, sounds like gun owners should be have to undergo a mandatory mental health assessment before buying guns then”
Cultist: “If you try and make me prove I’m not a dangerous extremist I’ll kill you”.
That, and pretty much everyone is for some degree of infringement, they just don’t want themselves to be infringed.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Oh, so you’re okay with a recently released from jail gang-member living next door being allowed to legally buy a full auto 50 cal, or a grenade launcher?
Unfortunately that doesn’t work any more. The people who are still staunchly pro-gun after the last two decades of violence often just say “yes, I support convicted felons buying grenade launchers and mortars”.
They’re confident it will never be anyone they care about getting killed because they only care about themselves. To them, an armed gang member next door is just a get out of jail free card waiting to be murdered with their cool gun.
This will undoubtedly upset some gun toting lunatic who will want to claim they care about their family and that’s why they have guns, but that’s just more exceptionalism – every child that killed themselves with a gun or murdered their classmates had a parent who thought it would never be them.
fail to understand why we don’t have those same atrocities.
Training, or perhaps not living in a hopeless shithole?
I don’t disagree, but y’all don’t own nearly as many guns as Americans. I think you already highlighted why - in most civilized countries you have actually do some work to get a gun and have more legal responsibility than just “oops little Timmy got my gun again, that’s not your pacifier big guy I don’t know why he likes this thing so much let’s put that back over here on the nightstand.”
Nothing to see here but another NRA Freedom Celebration™, folks. Move along!
Winter break, school shooting break. Of course both will recommence at the same time over there.
Onion article incoming with headline for the thousandth time
They don’t appear to have added one since October.
