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    "I’ve got just the place for low-cost housing. I have solved this problem. I know where we can build housing for the homeless: golf courses! It’s perfect! Just what we need. Plenty of good land, in nice neighborhoods, land that is currently being wasted on a meaningless, mindless activity engaged in primarily by white, well-to-do male businessmen who use the game to get together to make deals to carve this country up a little finer amongst themselves.

    I am getting tired, really getting tired, of these golfing cocksuckers in their green pants, and their yellow pants, and their orange pants, and their precious little hats and their cute little golf carts! It is time to reclaim the golf courses from the wealthy and turn them over to the homeless! Golfing is a arrogant, elitist game which takes up entirely too much room in this country. Too much room’ in this country! It is an arrogant game on its very design alone, just the design of the game speaks of arrogance.

    Think of how big a golf course is - the ball is that fucking big! What do these pin-headed pricks need with all that land?! There are over seventeen thousand golf courses in America, they average over one hundred and fifty acres a piece - that’s three million plus acres, four thousand, eight hundred and twenty square miles - you could build two Rhode Islands and a Delaware for the homeless on the land currently being wasted on this meaningless, mindless, arrogant, elitist, racist, there’s another thing; the only blacks you’ll find at country clubs are carrying trays.

    And a boring game. A boring game for boring people. You ever watch golf on television? It’s like watching flies fuck! And a mindless game, mindless. Think of the intellect it must take, to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then, walking after it! And then, hitting it again! I say pick it up asshole, you’re lucky you found the fucking thing! Put it in your pocket and go home, you’re a winner! You’ve found it! No chance of that happening. Dork-o in the plaid knickers is going to hit it again and walk some more. Let these rich cocksuckers play miniature golf! Let them fuck with a windmill for an hour and a half or so! See if there’s any real skill among these people.

    Now I know there are some people who play golf who don’t consider themselves rich. FUCK 'EM! And shame on them for engaging in an arrogant, elitist passtime."

    -George Carlin

    https://youtu.be/Z4w7H48tBS8?si=NboUfVzXMBGJD0C4

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    Even better is when they destroy a bunch of virgin land to make a course when courses are already overbuilt in the area, then close it.

    I lived in a city that had a mayor who was elected to a few terms and was going on 10-11 years in office. An out-of-state developer wanted to turn 400 acres of old growth forest by Lake Superior into a golf course, spending about 25 million. For some reason he made this basically the only thing he tried to get to happen in his last 2 years in office. This was also at a time when a lot of courses were struggling or closing because they had built too many in the early 2000s.

    Many people were opposed to it but the usual sort of people thought it was great because ‘wow someone is spending money’. One fairly dim guy I knew who worked in construction said “YEAH. Do you know how many jobs that will make??”. The problem is they were going to hire a bunch of people to build it, which would take about 6 months, and then the permanent positions at the course were going to be like 6 people. Finally, they didn’t do it, the mayor left office, and basically nobody ever talked about it again.

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      had a mayor who was elected to a few terms and was going on 10-11 years in office. An out-of-state developer wanted to turn 400 acres of old growth forest by Lake Superior into a golf course, spending about 25 million. For some reason he made this basically the only thing he tried to get to happen in his last 2 years in office. This was also at a time when a lot of courses were struggling or closing because they had built too many in the early 2000s.

      Many people were opposed to it but the usual sort of people thought it was great because ‘wow someone is spending money’. One fairly dim guy I knew who worked in construction said “YEAH. Do you know how many jobs that will make??”. The problem is they were going to hire a bunch of people to build it, which would take about 6 months, and then the permanent positions at the course were going to be like 6 people. Finally, they didn’t do it, the mayor left office, and basi

      Thanks for putting that last line in there. I was getting progressively more irate.

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        Ha, yeah, I guess my intro made it sound like it went through and then was closed. I was so happy when it finally didn’t happen and the obviously corrupt politician was gone.

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    We should just have forest golf. Plant crap tons of trees and make golf actually strategic

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      Yes! I’ve been saying this for years. Playing in the desert? Better wear your snake boots and bring plenty of water. Swamps? Bring floating balls, bring snake boots again, and watch for gators. Beach? Better get a good tee time to align with low tide. Leave no trace golfing. Extra strokes for disturbing the wildlife. Strokes off for litter and invasive species removal.

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    Screw ball golf, disc golf though solves all it’s problems

    1. Can play in almost any environment so no habitat destruction needed. Might have to clear a few trees or brush in dense forest but otherwise mostly keeps forests intact

    2. No elitism or arrogance. It’s one of the cheapest sports there is, just requires a couple $15 discs and most courses are free and are part of parks. Not much maintenance is needed on the course.

    3. Easier to pick up. Most people can at least throw a disc 10 yards or so after a couple tries. Also more forgiving if drunk or high in that way.

    4. More interesting to watch /play. Courses usually have obstacles like trees and the flight path of discs has a lot of lateral movement so if your good/lucky you can weave it through the obstacles.

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    Not a fan of the proper game but I do enjoy the driving range. I know some people jokingly say ‘just play minigolf’ but that’s missing the ‘punt a tiny thing really fucking far’ part.

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      … but that’s missing the ‘punt a tiny thing really fucking far’ part.

      I don’t get the thrill… I really don’t… it’s not that it’s impossible, but why do it 🤔.

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          It’s not that I don’t like it, I just don’t get the thrill.

          Maybe I’m too practical of a person, most things for me are a means to an end.

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            It’s the same thrill as any other game or sport. Many enjoy the challenge of trying to do something difficult and get better at it, and then enjoy doing it competitively, and/or cooperatively with friends.

            In the case of golf, you also get the added enjoyment of it being a generally slow paced activity, usually done on a beautiful day in a pretty area with lots of grass and trees.

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        For me there’s a certain amount of stress relief when I feel good contact with the ball. It can also be fun to try to be accurate the same as with other games like darts.

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      I’ve always found all sports boring to watch. Much like video games, I’d rather play it myself. Not golf though I tried it and it’s just too damn boring to participate in as well.

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      I don’t know, I still find basketball more boring. That’s not to say that golf isn’t boring, but if I only had two channels I bet I’d have it on golf. In the background.

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    I fucking hate golf, and golf courses for this reason, HOWEVER they do make a somewhat useful end land use in reclaimed landscapes in urban areas (closed landfills for instance). I don’t get the need for greens etc. the original game started out on some Scottish moorland or glen, with native grasses.

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    this made me realise rich people started playing golf because they wanted to flex how much land they have

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    Destroying the land isn’t really the issue, they choose flat terrain to avoid having to do the work. It’s the irrigation cost of keeping the greens functional in environments the grass isn’t suited for that’s the problem.

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      I don’t play golf but my neighbor does. Here in Appalachia where I am the golf course isn’t even remotely flat. They actually made a pretty interesting setup hidden behind trees.

      I’ve seen golfers that really impressed me with their precision. I would imagine that if you’re good at it, it isn’t even remotely boring.

      I grew up with Happy Gilmore being my only VHS tape for awhile though, so I’m sure I’m biased haha.

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        If it’s your game, do it. The people making these memes probably use computers that draw power created with coal and batteries mined in undeveloped and largely exploited nations. Their moral attempt at trying to make golf the one thing that needs to be focused on is just one of convenience because they don’t specifically like it.

        Most of their hobbies are just as damaging if your scope of economics goes out a couple of layers.

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    I hate golf for reasons above, but I recently tried Top Golf, and if there is any sustainable future for the sport, that’s it.

    A single fairway can serve ~100 tees with probably 500 people playing. And some of the games are super accessible to people of lower skill levels. We played a round of Angry Birds at a work party where the virtual targets were only maybe 25-30 yards away. Super fun.

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      I’ll second this. I hate "normal "golf but Top Golf is pretty fun. I like being able to get food and drinks too. It is quite pricey though so I don’t go very often (unless someone else is paying, lol). The first time I tried it was a vendor-sponsored event and I was like “huh, that’s kinda fun actually.”

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      We played a round of Angry Birds at a work party where the virtual targets were only maybe 25-30 yards away. Super fun.

      Ok, that does sound fun.

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        Yeah, they have a big screen that maps a 3D Angry Birds piggie tower over the fairway, and the birds follow the path of your ball. It really is an impressive 1:1 mapping.

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      I just went to their website and saw a video, it’s missing the putting right? That’s also a fun part of the experience along with the approach.

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    I like golf.

    It’s super challenging, which I find fun. I like that I can slowly get better at it and watch myself progress but probably never really master it. Plus, it’s a really great way to get outside and do something with some friends or even some strangers.

    I hate the elitist, racist, and sexist origins of the game but, like all bad ideas they’re becoming extinct. Sexism and racism have been pretty much eradicated from the sport compared to the time of it’s inception.

    I play on courses that are reasonably priced and open to anyone and I have plenty of options. I’m not even remotely wealthy and neither are any of the people I play with. Equipment can be expensive but it doesn’t have to be.

    Almost every passtime requires some space and often some level of infrastructure needs to be built and maintained. Think about swimming pools and hockey rinks, not to mention giant stadiums built for only a few professional teams to play in. Hardly anyone is mad about those things, and the list goes on.

    I get hating the rich. I get hating something because it’s perceived as something that only rich people do but that’s not really the reality here. Sure, rich people play golf but only about a quarter of courses are private so maybe there are actually way more poors like me playing. What do you think?

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    Just gonna say that golf is fun but I never played the real thing since it’s expensive, just golf videogames, minigolf is the one that I think it’s boring.