• fades@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    74
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    I am quite familiar. America is not innocent.

    How does America being a war mongering monster have anything to do with Russia missile striking innocent civilians in a nation they promised to protect. A sovereign nation being ground into meat, but none of that is barbaric because the US and CIA loved the fuck out of proxy wars and coups?

    Take your whataboutism somewhere else.

    • FIash Mob #5678@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      How does America being a war mongering monster have anything to do with Russia missile striking a nation they promised to protect.

      It’s relevant in that we, as a nation that vote for the world’s foremost war machine every two years, shouldn’t be pretending to be a moral authority. (At least, not until we’re willing to hold ourselves accountable.)

      Also, the block button is there if you don’t like what you see.

      • fades@beehaw.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        63
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        You started this thread by saying it’s not barbarism and then started talking about America’s sins.

        That has nothing to do with the topic at hand, they both are true, but you are specifically using whataboutism to shift from Russian barbarism. Why? Why is terrorism and missile striking not barbaric? Why is that unimportant and that instead you feel we must look towards America?

        Why are you so quick to shift the topic from current Russian aggression against an innocent nation (the topic of the post) to the past of the West?

        Since you need the help:

        Whataboutism is a type of logical fallacy that occurs when a person attempts to divert the focus away from the current issue by making a counter-accusation

        Yes I know I can block you but I have no problem continuing this discussion. :)

      • FaceDeer@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        23
        ·
        1 year ago

        Who’s “we”, kemosabe? The literal country of America isn’t participating in this thread. Individuals are. Many probably aren’t from America at all.

      • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        17
        ·
        1 year ago

        “we” Please understand that not everyone on the internet is American and that your country isn’t the center of the world.

      • CaptainAniki@lemmy.flight-crew.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        1 year ago

        Also, the block button is there if you don’t like what you see.

        Done and done. Thanks for making lemmy a great space with intelligent discourse. 🙄