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      I mean Paul Ryan is only 53 now and was elected to office when he was 29. He is pretty young. McCarthy is only 58. Eric Cantor is the oldest at 62.

      Definitely young and around the age you want leaders to be.

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        … 40’s are middle aged adults.

        “Young” is 18-19, maybe mid 20’s.

        Stop infantilizing entire generations of grown-ass adults

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          This makes me think of Sen. Strom Thurmond, who when he was in his 80s it came out he had an affair when he was in his 40s, and he said it was no big deal, that it was just a “youthful indiscretion”.

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            Was that about when Elsie mae Williams came out as his secret daughter ? Her mom was 15 when Williams was born…

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          Chill out my dude. Saying someone is young in the context of their peers isn’t “infantilizing” anyone.

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            no. first. you’re wrong it is.

            You see, people past their fifties still treat me like a child… even though I’ve maintained two steady careers- simultaneously, because fuck this economy- for nearly two decades now. I am a grown-ass adult, and you do not get to dismiss, patronize or indeed infantilize me just because I happen to have a different opinion than you. that’s just being ageist.

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          Infantilizing.

          Good God Lemmy, not everything is a condition/syndrome/loaded action.

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            1. did I say that? no. I didn’t.
            2. I know many 18 YO’s who are far more mature than a certain ex president, and at least as mature as the current one. age is an extremely poor indicator of one’s maturity, capability or the quality of their experience.
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              Who cares? It doesn’t matter that “18 years olds are on the battlefield”.

              Knife cuts both ways. I know 90 years olds more cognizant than some 20 year olds.

              I don’t want either of them leading a nation

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                Yeah? I never mentioned warfare, those were other commenters.

                The knife cuts both ways, but only one way is constitutionally sanctioned. Funny how that works.

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                  Because the majority of 35 and under don’t have the experience in life or law or professionalism to hold an elder statesman position? They can still be elected to the house of reps to earn that experience. Or hold state offices.

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        53 to 62 is by no means young. It may not be elderly, but it’s past middle aged.

        The “ideal age” for a political leader is a bag of worms that it’s difficult to get into without immediately falling into several different types of ageism.

        The world lived in by a 60 year old for most of their adult life was radically different from the modern world, and has many differences from the world as experienced by the majority of Americans.
        That doesn’t necessarily make them a worse leader, just like more experience in life doesn’t necessarily make them better, but it definitely raises concerns about disconnection from modern issues.

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          Well I gave their current ages. They were 20 years younger when elected.

          62 isn’t spring chicken, but it isn’t Feinstein zombie old.

          40ish is definitely a good age to be voted in and prove yourself talented enough to lead for another 20-30 years.

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            You straight up called 58 young, and said they’re young and the age you want. “McCarthy is only 53. (…) He is pretty young”.

            I’d rather judge candidates in their abilities and policies than on their age. Regardless of their age, these politicians are unpalatable.

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              You totally rephrased my comment wtf.

              I mean Paul Ryan is only 53 now and was elected to office when he was 29. He is pretty young. McCarthy is only 58. Eric Cantor is the oldest at 62.

              Definitely young and around the age you want leaders to be.

              I was talking about Paul Ryan, who has been out of office for years. 58 isn’t ancient either.

              The entire comment string was about how these three were “greying” in the photo. Nobody mentioned policy or abilities to me. Don’t forget, Paul Ryan quit because he knew how the party was going to turn out. Seems like a good man to me.

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                Getting the name wrong was my mistake, but I’d hardly call it totally rephrasing your comment. Intent was to remove the extraneous portion in the middle.

                No one said it’s ancient, but it’s definitely not “young”. They’re all close to retirement age.

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          And retirement age isn’t until 65 or so in the majority of countries.

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            Being less than 10 years from retirement makes you old.

            How is this not clear?

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              Besides the fact that’s not true, none of these men were that old when the picture was taken.

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                I’m younger than they are and I’m not young at 46. I own a home and have a teenage daughter. Obviously I’m not young.

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      Young compared to the embalmed geriatrics that run the country.

      Senate comes from Latin “senex”, which literally means “old man”. Go figure, walking corpses have run the world since antiquity.

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        It used to make sense. Not a lot of technology shifts between 2,000 BC and 1,000 AD. You wanted the folks who actually remembered what to do in case of an earthquake or tidal wave. It’s different today; I recently looked up an article about Obama written in 2008. He was considered a big innovator because he owned a Blackberry.

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    For context, this is the cover of a 2010 book. These were going to be the guys. Surely one of this bunch will be president some day.

    Eric Cantor was the House Majority Leader. That’s a pretty big deal. He got primaried by a tea partier in 2014. It seems quaint now, but it was a big fucking deal at the time. Never has there been someone so high ranking that the party’s electorate kicked out. Cantor was in good standing, but their public was becoming a monster.

    The other two were more recently chewed up, but I’ll let someone else tell those stories.

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    They have thoroughly nuked their bench. If we are still a democracy in the future they will have no one to take of the mantle but for clowns and hucksters.

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      Seems to win them elections with some fair regularity, why would they change anything?

      They’re evil clowns pandering to other evil clowns, it’s evil clowns the whole way.

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      Their bench is wackos. As much as I disagree with their positions, I do wish we had a stable Republican Party full of people who at least wanted to work in good faith and not set the place on fire to get their way.

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    This could’ve been a good politic topic, but instead people are in here acting offended by a word and calling everyone “ageist”. Holy shit, people…look at this fucking thread ans ask yourself why anyone would trust your political choices.

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    Just because you have chaps, a holster, tall boots, a 10 gallon hat, and a revolver, doesn’t make you a cowboy.