• taladar@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Why would you ban anyone who truly deserves it (e.g. for cheating or harassment or sexual harassment) for anything less than forever? What would you gain from giving them a chance to come back other than a high chance for more moderator headaches?

    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      Pshh you’re being downvoted but fuck that. If a ban is legit, make it permanent. Cheating? Shouting slurs at folks? Fuck off, banned forever. Companies used to do that, now they’re WEAK

      • taladar@sh.itjust.works
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        1 year ago

        If it came with no downsides, sure. Not being able to play Playstation is a very minor part in life not really deserving any kind of “fundamental rights” based argument, unlike locking people up.

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          1 year ago

          Do you not have a fundamental right to the goods you purchase?

          • null@slrpnk.net
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            1 year ago

            But you didn’t purchase them, you licensed them conditionally.

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              1 year ago

              Yeah technically, but that only stands until enough people challenge it

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                1 year ago

                In other words, no you do not currently have a fundamental right to that content.

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                  1 year ago

                  In other words, no not even close to what I said.

                  Often these little legalese situations are illegal or legally undefined, and the only reason it holds is because no one has pushed against it

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      1 year ago

      hi, sometimes people get banned for no reason.

      if they’re a repeat offender, ban them again easy.

      otherwise, nah.

      people let their siblings, children, friends play on their consoles.

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        1 year ago

        Oh, there should absolutely be ways to appeal a ban if you have a legitimate argument, but making it temporary for everyone is just insane.

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          1 year ago

          bans are already temporary in the sense that offenders can acquire new accounts, hardwares, or networks to circumvent them anyway. all that permanent bans does is guarantee that people who are falsely banned, arent repeat offenders, or even got hacked themselves get permanantly banned.

          appeal processes arent a guarantee to getting an account back.

          Games have much more strict bans than they need imo.

          a lot of terrible chat filters have gotten people permabanned and thats kinda just it. im here for no permanent bans.