Almost feel sorry for this guy, working so hard to create an echo chamber all by themselves.
That community should be renamed “links to the craziest and most unfounded shit I can find” but that doesn’t have the same ring as “conservative”
“Do you suffer from an increasing lack of Copium? Tired of being asked to take personal accountability or put critical thought into your opinions? Come to Conservative where it’s always the Liberals’ fault!”
“Do you believe everything you read or hear on a podcast? Want to skip the hassle of thinking for yourself and be told how to feel about issues that don’t directly affect you? If you’re angry with nowhere to direct that rage, come to Conservative!”
Please just stay on reddit on your “echo chambers” lmao
This post has been up two minutes and I think already has more positive votes than any other post here. That should say something
You would think being alone would make for some good echoes
This and political compass memes
The dude has to be a troll. No one has this little self-awareness. (speaking of @Optionhome)
Edit: Seems like the dude had enough and migrated to conservatives only
lol. That Colbert Report header graphic.
Have you taken a close look at conservative America lately?
Sadly yes. Thankfully only from far away as I live in Europe.
Not far better either.
It depends…. But yeah, not much better… Europe is a few years behind and still going hard on neoliberalism, but the right is moving more and more to the right. And the “left” that has been winning ground is as fang-less and liberal as American Democrats. So yeah, we’re fucked as well. Only a few years behind lmao.
its gotta be. They’ve already had their own reddit replacement for years, no reason to come here other than to start a flame ware
They’ve already had their own reddit replacement for years
but Stormfront pre-dates reddit
They probably meant Voat
Meta discussion - the existence of this post makes the wonder what moderation tools on lemmy are like? And if there’s systems in place to deal with unwanted content.
https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/users/04-moderation.html
- Users report posts & comments
- Communities have mods
- Instances have admins
- Instances that disagree on how moderation should be done can block the other
Edit: Changed “unmoderated communities” to “unwanted content” to clarify my intent to discuss moderation in general
This community is moderated. We receive reports and will act on them if the reported content breaks the rules in the sidebar: there is no racism or bigotry, no personal insults, and u/stanleytweedle has not been spamming.
Oops, didn’t mean to imply that the community wasn’t moderated or that this post in particular was worthy of a ban. The post was slightly negative so it made me think about moderation. Thanks for your work!
I almost feel sorry for the users who think brigading other people’s communities is a worthwhile use of their time, let alone making political discourse any healthier.
It must be jarring leaving their bot/troll protected safe spaces of twitter/reddit and interacting with sane normal people.
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Ironically by upvoting this post you are bumping the community to the top. It’s free advertising
Yeah, but the community is filled with liberal posts anyway.
It’s basically becoming like r/FlatEarth, where they make fun of flat earthers.
Please please please let this turn into a Reddit-like r/AnimeTitties situation. This was one of my favorite things about Reddit & the Internet in general.
literally the same exact concept
That’s how modern Flat Earthers started. People made up the conspiracy theory as a joke people would be too dumb to ever believe.
And then…
When this was posted there was only the one guy, now there’s like 30 and I bet it’s cause of this post
I agree
Do I really have to endure crazies here aswell?
You can block users and there’s a big red “Block Community” button at the top right.
You don’t have to endure shit, maybe stop brigading other people’s communities if you don’t like them. You can’t possibly willingly search up a community for an ideology you don’t agree with, then complain about having to see them.
I mean, sure he can.
Yes, because liberals don’t have their own echo chambers. /s
It truly is unfortunate that reality has a well-known liberal bias.
The bias of reality is non-binary.
You’re getting downvotes but that’s actually pretty insightful if you think about it
Liberal echo chambers rant about human rights owed to people. Conservative echo chambers talk about how to remove human rights from individuals you don’t like.
“remove human rights individuals you don’t like”
Would you mind giving some examples?
Also, conservatives are not a monolith. Just like liberals, conservatives are not a monolith. Some are further from center than others. Some are much, much further away from center.
remove human rights from individuals you don’t like
yeah, i’d say it’s more like removing the rights that the government gave themselves. as Reagan said, “terrifying words - I’m from the government and i’m here to help”
I’d say the majority of conservatives don’t like government and wish they’d have less power over The People. One instance of this is the general opinion on the ATF (or BATFE if you’re going by their modern(ish) name), they’re an enforcement agency and yet are still making laws (they’re doing so illegally by making “rules” on accessories such as Pistol Braces and Bump Stocks, both of which were given the OK from the ATF approximately 10 years ago (for the braces at least, can’t recall about the bump stocks). In fact, when you look into the history of the ATF, they were apart of the Treasury Department because they’re only job was to collect the taxes and fees, apply for permits, etc for Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
This is just one instance where the rights of the people are getting trampled on because of an agency where the director wasn’t even voted in. Doesn’t matter if you “need” it or “want” it but it’s still nevertheless a right that you have. A practical approach that many people, even within the firearms industry, have told others is “if you don’t want it, then don’t buy it. We’re not forcing you to purchase anything.”
One of the sentiments I’ve been seeing online is the phrase “Become Ungovernable.” I think we need to strive towards that.
Like comparing the echo in a bathroom to the echo in the Grand Canyon.
bbbut bOtH SIdEs!
I don’t identify with either side, but don’t act like liberals aren’t guilty of the same thing. Both sides take for granted that they are right about everything.
a wild BothSides appears!
Because it is considered crazy to believe that both sides have valid points and downfalls in 2023 in the United States.
This “Team Blue” and “Team Red” mentality where people pick a side and refuse to listen to anyone else is insane.
Ah the ole “both sides” argument. I have a feeling you do indeed identify as one. And if in 2023 liberals and conservatives look the same to you, that’s a fault in you
Nope, I hate both sides for different reasons. Nice try though.
Conservatives have based their identity around a narcissist and want to return to 1950 and strip away women’s and LGBT rights. And America is not a Christian nation. It was founded on religious freedom, but none of them got the memo.
Liberals got a guy who can’t even form a sentence and shakes hands with ghosts into the white house. The press secretary is equally incompetent. Is that really the best they can do? Also, look at Roe v Wade. It got overturned because democrats didn’t give enough of a shit about actually codifying things like abortion when they had 40 fucking years to do so.
I believe in equal rights but am against government overreach. Both sides are right about different things, but the execution on both sides leaves me dumbfounded.
I’m so happy you are a powerless person 🤣 – you think with the simplicity and guilelessness of a simpleton. One man raped women and children (“I SHOULD’VE POPPED HER CHERRY!!!” and, of course, “GRAB EM BY THE PUSSY”), is facing countless indictments related to treason and national security, hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths, stochastic terrorism, literally has resent toward veterans as he sees them as a threat to his masculinity, 191m dollars golfing, it goes on and on. And another “doesn’t talk right” and “is old”. I hope you can one day realize how stupid you not only sound but ARE when you say/believe things like this. You sound like a self-important high-school drop-out.
Biden said he didn’t want his kids growing up in a racial jungle when the idea of interracial schools was brought up, and of course “If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black!” And he has been caught on camera sniffing little girls’ hair and grabbing at young women who clearly didn’t want to be touched. So no, Biden is no better than Trump.
TLDR: Biden is a racist pedophile who has been caught on camera.
Literally none of that is even remotely close to what I mentioned. Trump has had DOZENS of sex crime allegations over DECADES. His a career criminal who is currently GOING DOWN FOR HUNDREDS OF WELL-PROVEN, WELL -DOCUMENTED CRIMES.
All you are is weak taking points wrapped in a personality disorder and a room-temperature IQ. Weak brained, fearful of facts and truth.
I hope you give him all your money, wear your stupid khakis, and march your ass to real society and try to pull your looney tunes bullshit again, round 2 for the Jan 6 shit-smearering goblins like you.
It’s not a crime to feel up children on national TV?
And apparently you missed the part where I hate the republicans too. But It’s pointless to argue with someone who prefers to argue with a preconceived idea of someone who doesn’t like Biden rather than what I actually said or believe in.
No, it literally isn’t. If you are confused, contact a legal professional in your area to walk you through the difference between baseless and unsubstantiated claims attached to short media pulled out of context and actual crimes with actual victims.
You are acting in bad faith–you can believe your independent or whatever you want call yourself–as someone who willfully ignores reason. Thankfully, no one has to listen to you or anyone else’s perverted little stupidities and half-lies much longer because your kind has been dying off faster than Dodo. They begged teary eyed for a vaccine far too late before they’re intubation; or absolutely never can find love in a populated area; or wait for a pardon in a DC cell.
when they had 40 fucking years to do so.
Show me when all of the above was true:
- Democrats controlled both houses of Congress
- Democrats controlled the Presidency OR had a supermajority
- Abortion being codified into law was widely popular in America
If you tried building an echo chamber alone, but as the ‘other side’ - it’s actually really easy.
And the left doesn’t do the exact same thing?
As an anarchist I qualify as neither liberal or conservative (unless you view anarchism as the the ultimate conservatism, and some do).
I’ve found that I often learn things from my conservative friends if I’m actually willing to listen to what they have to say.
I’ve found that I often learn things from my liberal friend if I’m actually willing to listen to what they have to say.
Until we are all willing to get out of our echo chambers and listen to people who believe differently than we do, we are going to both stagnate and fragment as a society.
Why do people feel the need to sign up with an ideology in the first place? You know you can hold all your same beliefs without declaring meaningless solidarity with every other goon that chooses the same team name.
Everyone has an ideology, whether you realize or acknowledge it or not. That doesn’t mean that everyone who subscribes to the same ideology has the same views on everything.
People who consider themselves conservatives do exist, whether we like it or not. I much prefer them to be forced to be confronted with other views and opinions every now and then that challenge their worldview.
Otherwise, they will go to some echochamber hosted by right wingers. This has already happened to the point where they basically live in a parallel universe and self-isolate. I don’t think it’s in anybody’s interest for us to also encourage this self-isolation…
Everyone has ideals and beliefs, an ideology is a curated selection of ideals and beliefs that help people that don’t really want to sort through their own ideals and beliefs feel connected. Most people who claim an ideology haven’t really thought through the reality of those beliefs and people who think through the reality of beliefs tend not to want to be defined by a particular ideology.
Of course if you only look through that lens you can just sort everyone you hear from into a familiar box and that will further reinforce your belief that everyone has an ideology. so this probably won’t change your opinion on that.
But whatever people’s beliefs are- what I find amusing is the “as a liberal\conservative\independent\anarchist\libertarian\whatever, I think” crowd. Their declaration of allegiance comes before any expression of their ideas or beliefs, which tells me they didn’t come to those beliefs by reason or experience, they’re just representing their belief club.
Everyone has ideals and beliefs, an ideology is a curated selection of ideals and beliefs that help people that don’t really want to sort through their own ideals and beliefs feel connected.
I don’t want to get into a discussion about definitions, but in my view, an ideology is a set of principles, believes and values. Often ideologies overlap and are shared among different people, but you could also have a unique and personal ideology. In my view, everyone has an ideology, whether they deny to have one or not.
What you describe here I would call dogma, which is a strict ideology often enforced in a top down fashion.
Of course if you only look through that lens you can just sort everyone you hear from into a familiar box and that will further reinforce your belief that everyone has an ideology. so this probably won’t change your opinion on that.
We are simply talking about definitions… You can call it “a set of ideals and beliefs”, I generally call it “ideology”. But I’m flexible with my definitions, what matters to me is that we understand eachother.
Their declaration of allegiance comes before any expression of their ideas or beliefs, which tells me they didn’t come to those beliefs by reason or experience, they’re just representing their belief club.
I agree that this seems to be a trend that is much more common in the past couple of years where everyone has to apply a strict label to them as a person. I generally avoid that, or I use something vague like “leftist” to describe myself, but I do think it often leads to prejudice where people assume they know all my personal views simply based on the label I use, but that’s generally how it goes on the internet especially.
Well you did a poor job of not getting into a discussion about definitions- lol. But I don’t really care. People who declare their ideology pre-discussion are self-enforcing their chosen ideology as dogma, so pick whatever term you prefer.
I use something vague like “leftist” to describe myself, but I do think it often leads to prejudice where people assume they know all my personal views simply based on the label I use
Then what is the value of that label, or any? Why not just express your ideas on their own merit and avoid the association altogether?
Well you did a poor job of not getting into a discussion about definitions- lol. But I don’t really care. People who declare their ideology pre-discussion are self-enforcing their chosen ideology as dogma, so pick whatever term you prefer.
I mean at least I’m not arguing that you have to use my definitions or that my definition is the only correct one. I kinda have to know how you use the term to understand, but now that I do, I don’t have an issue using the term “ideology” the way you do.
Then what is the value of that label, or any?
In my opinion, there is not a lot of value in labels. I agree with you here. That’s why I try to avoid them.
But sometimes, people will start to apply their own labels on you regardless and it will often be labels that don’t fit. And at that point, I will rather use my own label than have a label that I don’t like be applied to me.
But sometimes, people will start to apply their own labels on you regardless and it will often be labels that don’t fit. And at that point, I will rather use my own label than have a label that I don’t like be applied to me.
In those circumstances I recommend turning it around on them and make them explain why they assumed a label for you. Let them expose their own ridiculous team name biases. Or better yet just ignore them because anyone who speaks to you as a representative of an ideology isn’t really speaking to you at all.
If you’re an anarchist you’re a leftist. Anarchism and (modern) conservatism are mutually exclusive philosophies.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Andy, on the other hand, is doing God’s work.
We need an Andy for the MAGA one they just made as well
There’s a few angels sprinkles in there now lol
Holy crap, he got banned for 3 years!
Conservatives, real bastions of free speech, huh?
Oh, and I just noticed from the sidebar: “1. No racism or bigotry.” Then what the hell else are they gonna talk about here?
