Spiner himself explained,
One of the ideas that John Logan and I had about what the next film would have been was a Justice League of Star Trek. Something would bring all the great Star Trek villains together, from Khan to Shinzon, and Picard is the only person who could stop them and he actually has to go through time and pluck out the people he needs to help him. He goes back to the moment before Data blows up and takes him back to get Kirk and Spock, and go even further back and get Scott Bakula’s character, Archer.
I can’t imagine it would have been good, but boy do I wish I existed in a universe where this movie had been made.
Something would bring all the great Star Trek villains together
thanks, i hate it
Yeah one of the things about star trek villains is that they’re not typically motivated as “I’m evil and want to destroy the world, mwahahaha.” That’s not to say that the writing is always perfect, but they just wouldn’t share enough of the same motives to join forces.
“I can’t imagine it would have been good, but boy do I wish I existed in a universe where this movie had been made.” — This is the perfect reaction and I cannot improve on it in any way.
The best way I have to describe this kind of movie is “delightfully terrible.”
I have a feeling that there are fans of Star Trek V The Final Frontier here.
The lesson should be that bizarre ideas for 5th movies should never be brought to screen.
boy do I wish I existed in a universe where this movie had been made.
I have the exact opposite opinion lol
Same! I’ve always considered time travel to be a “plot cheat code” because it allows writers to do whatever they want. This works out ok sometimes but other times it just makes for bizarre stories that defy belief. This would definitely be the latter kind!
I enjoy ST largely because it’s believable (in a broad strokes ignore the details kind of way) so far-fetched stories don’t do it for me as much. Time travel is firmly in “never gonna happen” territory.
Yo this sounds like a phaser beam dodged to me. This just confirms that there is a worse timeline after all
Lol this is such an optimistic perspective. Thank you. :)
God, this pitch makes so little sense on so many levels. Star Trek has never been about the villains, so having a batman-style villain team-up makes no sense. Seven samurai in space with time travel is a reasonable pitch, but why would you need to build a team that involves a captain, a captain, a science officer, and a captain?
So as everyone else has said … yuck!
But then I quickly remembered “… All good things”. Time travel, big CGI thing in the sky, reuniting with old characters (Tasha, O’Brien) … and it works very well, especially as a send off.
I’m thinking that there’s a kernel in there as a farewell to TNG era trek. Maybe not something where Picard becomes a literal Time Lord, but more where a drastic event has forced time-bending onto everyone at the epi-center of the event and any attempt of take advantage of it also entails some cost and the only way to fix the “breaking of time” is to do something incredibly starfleet.
There’s no evil per se just things breaking and people taking advantage of it. And Borg 🤷 .
This sounds terrible! Thanks for sharing
“It’s revolting!”
“More?”
“Please!”
. He goes back to the moment before Data blows up and takes him back to get Kirk and Spock
This reads more like a treatment for Star Trek Generations. as if they realized how stupid that movie is, and wanted to fix it
We should have gotten some DS9 movies before this mess was ever considered.
Damn I read the ideas for Star Trek: The Beginning. Besides the stupid name it sounds like an awesome idea to see the first Earth - Romulan war and have something bridge the gap between ENT and TOS
Really though, I just would have wanted to see Archer on the big screen, regardless of quality.
The Generations we should have had.
Not even kidding the premise is goofy but with a visionary director and sincere enough attempt, this could have been amazing.
The people in charge of TNG by that point were creatively bankrupt. It would have been a fiasco.
Also, the idea just doesn’t fit Star Trek. It isn’t a comic book franchise, where fan-pleasing callbacks and crossovers are baked into the formula. In Star Trek media, callbacks and crossovers have tended to be some of the worst stories.
Star Trek: Gladiator 2.
This is something I would have loved to hate.
I think this is a great take.
I get the appeal. Cross overs are enticing. But Zach Snyder’s justice League demonstrates a huge challenge that most people don’t seem to discuss: the recruitment needs to have a purpose.
Remember when Batman is asking Aquaman to be in his
movieteam? It’s clear that the only reason is that the team is not a means, it’s the end. He doesn’t need him for any particular reason, he just spends the he could be trying to solve a mystery building a club from scratch with no clear purpose. I think this set up would have the same problem.In some contexts this would be called a solution without a problem. I couldn’t agree more!
Taking the time travel from All Good Things and going a little too nuts with it.
