• Veneroso@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    To quote Vaush: “If the choice is between 99% Hitler and 100% Hitler, you choose 99% Hitler. Full stop.”

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        1 year ago

        well why not… that seems like a pretty good representation of progressive/“liberal” rhetoric.

        For reference, I believe that the dem/republican electoral pattern is basically a hostage situation. The Republicans are honest about being horrible, the Dems pretend not to be and use the threat of Republicans to get their way. But like, this pattern is not leading us anywhere good. at some point you have to stop cooperating even if the hostages might get hurt, or you just lose anyway. (Though that’s easier for me to say I have no family and am more or less suicidally depressed. But the alternative is business as usual until the next even more desperate situation)

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          point is, democrats are better, and if you are going to argue this, try not being decently-off and white.

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            That’s the whole point they aren’t better, they are standing by as a genocide is happening in real time and not even verbally protesting. Weeks of indiscriminate bombing, 7k dead, thousands more displaced, revenge for a terrorist attack that killed 2k people, with no end in sight.

            They claim it is all in the name of defeating Hamas but like, cmon. To quote, if you killed the leader of Hamas but caught my brother and uncle in the blast as “acceptable collateral damage”, my immediate reaction would be to start Hamas 2.

            Israelis have compared it to 9/11 to draw sympathy from Americans, and Israel is speedrunning the same awful crap that we did to ourselves and to foreign countries in the years that followed it. In what world has the US’s reaction to 9/11 made the world safer or more peaceful for even the average American, to say nothing of people in the Middle East??

            That is what the Democrats are supporting near unanimously (with the exception of a few house Democrats, thank you ilhan Omar and co). It has to stop ASAP in the name of basic humanity. I can’t stand all this being done in my name

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          (Though that’s easier for me to say I have no family and am more or less suicidally depressed. But the alternative is business as usual until the next even more desperate situation)

          This is an incredibly honest disclaimer and it genuinely makes me sad. Your position is sensible for your situation.

          Are you seeing a psychiatrist or therapist? Are you able to? If not in person, there should be some really good options to do so remotely and without breaking the bank.

          I deal with depression and anxiety too. It can be overwhelming sometimes, and when the world’s gone to shit, it doesn’t take much for it to all collapse. I’ve been there personally. And I can tell you, cliche as it is, it does get better. You don’t even notice it. One day you’ll look at something that reminds you of the dark time period, and you’ll be amazed at how you feel now vs how you felt then.

          Life sucks, but we don’t have to suffer. We can help each other out.

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      Wrong.

      If your choice is two Hitlers, you kill both the fuckers. Full stop.

      There is always another option, you don’t have to accept shit.

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      No number of rights make a wrong and no number of wrongs make a right. That’s not to suggest that there aren’t generations of all of us that have made the best of what they could do. You have to hold to the ideal. It’s incredibly popular to shit on everything because it’s the internet.

      The words worth fighting and dying for: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”