President Joe Biden is visiting Israel on Wednesday as the deadly Gaza hospital blast fuels protests. NBC News is providing live updates.

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    1 year ago

    Meh, they also said they believed the “decapitated children” thing before retracting it. Give it more time.

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    Information has since been reported by more objective parties that shows damage more in line with smaller explosives (so this is probably true), but the US lacks credibility on the conflict because no one sees them as a neutral (or even heavily biased) third party willing to challenge Israel. When Biden says he’s “with Israel 100%” and tells diplomats not to call for restraint, that immediately makes the US government just another arm of the messaging war. There is a cost for stating up front you’re all-in on one side.

    Similarly, if Israel had a better track record of not lying about their attacks, people would be more willing to believe them when they say “it wasn’t us”. Going all-in all the time may yield short term gain in whatever current media cycle they’re in, but it destroys their credibility in the long term. And since there have been periodic terrorist attacks followed by brutal military responses for my entire lifetime, they probably should have been thinking in the long term.

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    1 year ago

    Let’s believe America when it comes to war crimes and who is at fault for causing a war in the middle East, after all who is more experienced?

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    Actually, from the photos of the damage from the place you can see that the damage dealt looks pretty similar to other hits of HAMAS/Islamic Jihad

    More pictures there

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      Hamas misfiring and hitting their own is fairly common, and with the escalation, much more common you’d think.

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        Yes, I know about that, but many don’t

        There have been a number of examples in past conflicts of misfired Hamas rockets striking Palestinian civilian areas in the Gaza Strip. During the August 2022 flareup between Israel and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad terror group, more than one-fifth of the 1,000 rockets fired toward Israel failed and landed in Gaza, where they caused one-third of the 44 deaths recorded.

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      It’s indefensible that major news organizations immediately took Hamas at its word and posted headlines like “Israel bombs Gaza hospital killing 500” when this is what seems to have actually happened.

      My heart goes out to the victims, however many there were, but journalists have to be better than this.

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    1 year ago

    “We’ve investigated our buddies’ actions and have found them to be not guilty, trust us”