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    Hexbear/Lemmygrad are extreme and authoritarian, but that does not a Nazi make.

    Just call them tankies, no need to dilute the waters with Nazi co-opting of left wing concepts. All that does is associate socialism and nazism, something no real leftist would do.

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      The term you’re looking for is neo-nazi. It stands for neo-liberal national socialist. They believe in liberalism, and socialism, but only under the yoke of authoritarianism.

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        It doesn’t stand for anything. It’s just “Neo-Nazism” and the “neo” means “new,” and just distinguishes them as post-WW2 nazis. Neo-nazis do not believe in liberalism or socialism.

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        They constantly criticize “libs”, though, by which they mean classical or neo-liberalism.

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            I’ve found that self-identified leftists oppose the identity politics characteristic of US style liberalism. Some say this is because divisions in society such as gender, orientation and race, are used to distract from class and economic issues. Theoretically communism is egalitarian in terms of race and gender. They seem to hate the US politicians who advocate for race/gender/orientation equality and workers rights though, while rarely criticizing the fascist wing, so it doesn’t all make much sense to me.

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            So like, do you understand what materialism means in socialist philosophy? It’s clear by the way you’ve used the word in this thread that you think it just means “likes having stuff.”

            How do you run around calling yourself a socialist when you don’t even know what historical and dialectical materialism are?

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              I like the way you try to frame a disingenuous question while wrapping it in a layer of personal assumptions.

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                You’re deflecting again. You said in another comment “they say they are communists yet they engage in materialism.” You could just own up and say that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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                  You should do a better job of hiding your alt account when your belligerence gets stomped on your main. No use in 4 months then straight into this thread?

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                    Dude, kill the redditor in your head. This is my only fediverse account and by “deflecting again” I mean there’s a clear pattern of behavior in this thread that you avoid the topic altogether when you get called out on anything.

                    What do you mean “no use in 4 months”? Are you just used to lying at this point, hoping the people upvoting you won’t investigate your claims? My account is only 2 months old and I post like every other day. You’re probably just blocking or defederated from the instances I’m active in.

                    But this has nothing to do with the fact that you call yourself a socialist without knowing what materialism is.

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          They refuse to denigrate conservatives because that style of politics is too close to daddy china

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        Neoliberalism is not Nazism?

        Neoliberalism is a rightwing reimagining of the already rightwing Liberalism. Its primary concerns are how to reduce social benefits, fuck over citizens, and further enrich the rich.

        The fuck has your education system let you down mate?