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Reminder that Microsoft is trying to shift Windows to be entirely cloud based, so this can easily happen overnight without your consent. You don’t own your OS. Linux is the only way, unless you’re one of those strange BSD folks.
They aren’t trying to move to be completely cloud based. That was a bad headline that misconstrued what they were actually doing. The article actually just talked about how they wanted Windows to be fully streamable from the cloud as an option.
That’s exactly how Office365/Microsoft365 got it’s start. Now, instead of buying a copy of Office, you subscribe to Microsoft365.
I’m assuming that the path from cloud as an option to subscription based OS will be a little faster. To be fair, I wouldn’t be surprised if the stripped down locally installed version is offered as a Freemium option. Air-gapped and non-online computers usually just do one thing anyways. Most aren’t being used to watch movies, buy stuff, etc.
My prediction would be that within 5 years, probably sooner, if you don’t subscribe to your cloud-based Microsoft Windows OS, you’ll have a bare-bones experience. Good enough for kiosks and such.
Granted, you are correct, the article passed around only talks about how it’s an option right now, with some benefits… but we’ve all seen Microsoft do this exact same play before.
Now, instead of buying a copy of Office, you subscribe to Microsoft365
Naa, I just install Office and autopatch it.
For a business a cloud based OS would be far easier to be honest. It’s just an iteration on remote desktop services, with better latency and better protection of the business because of tools like this. I don’t think this should exist without consent on your private OS, but I can stand with not having to tell the new guy again that he can’t torrent on company property.
>b-but muh proprietary software and vidya gaymes!!!
Ik this is sarcastic but the video games issue is real regardless of Proton and its derivatives on Linux. Windows really is the best way to game right now
I feel that this very much depnd on which games you’re playing. Competitive or Roblox, Windows is the better choice. Majority of the games I play though works without any issues on Linux.
I’ve heard that some games even are faster on Linux even when running proton buy it isn’t anything I’ve myself has investigated.
Gaming is one of my main intrests and I’ve been playing on Linux for at least ten years. It’s not for everyone I guess.
Yeah, I built a new PC at the beginning of the pandemic and went Linux. I don’t even not windows and play all my games on there.
It’s great that it works for what you play, but it doesn’t for me. Hopefully the steamdeck train continues to pick up steam, because it’s pretty much the only reason Linux gaming is gaining ground.
I play Apex Legends ranked. It runs better on pop os than win11 on my PC.
As a #1 competitive Roblox player, I can agree
Is there a lot of monies in the competitive Roblox circuit?
Yeah I demand their lunch money
Are you serious about roblox? Because I’m not much of a gamer, but kids play roblox and I was actualy planning on migrating to linux this summer.
Unfortunately yes, a month or so Roblox actively blocked Linux än VM:s. They claimed it is only temporarily until their new client is stable so that they can evaluate the results for windows first. General consensus seems to be that could just as well just filtered the results considering that they are able to block Linux all together.
I haven’t checked it out for a couple of weeks though so I don’t know if a workaround has been found. It’s annoying though because Roblox worked perfectly before that. I would have loved to migrate my kids computer’s to Linux as well since I got problems with rage every time I try to fix things on them 😅
I think Roblox is the only game that has the kids booting into Windows. Another reason Roblox sucks, I suppose.
It really sucks that they went and blocked Linux. Before that it worked flawlessly. I was close to moving my kids over to Linux when they did.
I went fulltime Linux and therefor bought a full AMD system (better drivers) one year ago. I played about 15 games the last year, some of them AAA titles, rarely had problems, and all of them could be fixed by looking on protondb.com (unless the problems came from the game itself of course).
There are some titles which will not support Linux on purpose although it surely would run just fine, for whatever reasons, e.g. fortnite.
Yeah that’s been my experience, but that won’t be the case for everyone. I mostly play singleplayer games, only a few multiplayer games, so it makes sense that I don’t have issues. But for someone who plays lots of multiplayer games, it wouldn’t work.
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What is their reasoning?
There’s many different reasons (all of them ignorant or blatantly made in bad faith) but one that I recall off the top of my head is that, since Linux gives users more freedom and more control over their operating system and computer, playing on Linux makes it easier for you to cheat in games. They like that in Windows, there’s parts of the system that Microsoft simply doesn’t allow users to touch, because in some cases, they still can, so they can use that to implement things like
rootkitssorry I mean “kernel-level anti-cheat” that users have no effective way of removing or bypassing.I have always found this argument disingenuous. Cheaters still find a way. At the end of the day, if you don’t want cheaters, then play games with people you trust.
They’re owned by Microsoft?
My setup is I have my gaming rig with a 4080 running Windows, then I turned my old PC gaming rig into an unRAID server. It’s a fully automated piracy machine running Plex. I just tell it what I want to download on my website.
What games are problematic on Linux these days? I’ve been Linux only for since Windows 7 server went EoL, and have had shockingly few problems, particularly in the last year or so. The few things that have been problematic with Proton work fine with GloriousEggroll.
I made the jump several years ago to full Linux and never looked back. I game a bunch, built my own custom PC’s for years. Linux has been great, and gaming on it has become fantastic.
The Steam Deck has helped push it even further, at this point I don’t really check if games run on Linux, I assume they do and 95% of the time I’m right.
The few games that flat out don’t run because of Anti-Cheat, I either wait until they are eventually supported, (Dead by Daylight, cough) or I just give them up. It isn’t worth it to me to sacrifice my freedom, privacy, and consumer rights just to play a certain video game when there are literally 10’s of thousands of games out there that I could play that run perfectly fine on Linux.
I do all my gaming in Linux. Yeah there’s some games i really wanted to play that don’t work in Linux, but there are so many games i can’t hope to play them all anyway.
oh no the 4chan meme arrow speak
Are you saying the video game complaint isn’t real? You have a solution? 90% of my personal PC use is gaming, otherwise anything I used to use my PC for is done with my phone.
Until Linux can support my entire steam library, I don’t see why I’d bother.
I wish that was the only thing. I work in science/engineering and lots of software that control equipment are only windows.
There are options like using virtual machines, but it’s way to cumbersome and prone to errors, you don’t want a measurement that took half a day get ruined because of a stupid communication error.
I can’t live without Call of Dooty!
If you click on “More info” you have the option to run it. You’ll see a message indicating there’s risk involved in doing so.
I switched to pop os recently and I’m never going back to Windows. It’s easier now than ever to switch to Linux, even for gamers. Steam, proton, and wine have made running your Windows apps and games in Linux so easy. You’d have to have a very specific use case to justify staying with Windows now.
Here’s a fun one: I own two video capture devices, an Elgato HD 60 S and an Avermedia LiveGamer Portable 2. Both do not work in Linux. I found a simple USB HDMI capture device that works in Linux and cost a fraction of what thosmother overhyped ones cost me. It works way better than they ever did. That was one of my last adjustments. I can still stream my Switch and PS5 on Twitch, no problem.
That’s a pretty niche use case and it was easy.
A good portion of popular multiplayer games doesn’t work on Linux due to anticheat issues (R6S, Valorant, PUBG, Fortnite, CODs, BF2042, Destiny 2, Rust, Escape from Tarkov etc) so it’s not as easy to switch to Linux just yet if you play any of those games. Not to mention lack of support from industry standard software such as Adobe etc.
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Look at this person with their 46gb ram and highest end graphics card and processor capable of running VMs and games smoothly.
VMs aren’t remotely that expensive to run. You basically just need hardware that supports virtualisation and GPU passthrough. The virtual totality of the servers you interact with on the internet are VMs.
All earned with hard work, my brother. Trust me, man, complete whatever college or school things you have left, and after you’re set, treat yourself.
Pro tip though: Hold off on getting kids or building family. Give yourself some time to relax and enjoy life for a decade or so and go absolutely ham!
Could you tell us exactly which simple USB HDMI capture device you found that works well in Linux?
I’ve been looking for one myself.
No problem! This one right here: https://a.co/d/5o60f87
I must admit, it’s a little weird that it connects with a USB A to USB A cable, but it works great. Takes 4K input, has pass thru, ouputs 1080p 60 fps to OBS, no driver was needed. Just worked. Be sure to set it up in OBS to use YUY12 color space (emulated) and make sure your consoles have RGB range set to “limited” as this little guy doesn’t play well with expanded/full. Don’t worry, the image quality is still great. I streamed FFXIV and Zelda with it recently. Look at twitch.tv/littlecolt for my recent streams, they are all on this thing.
Thanks for the info, really appreciated!
Meh… just another reason added to a looong list about why I never looked back after switching to Linux, back when Vista was introduced.
F’s out for me and any other music producers. It’s like trying to game on Linux 15 years ago. You can do it in theory but when it’s your job it just isn’t there yet and I can’t imagine it ever will be
Pretty sure it’s possible or there are other options. But you’d probably had to invest a lot of work and time to make it work.
For most people it isn’t worth the effort, which I understand.
Wow it took a whole 8 hours for the Linux-bore to comment 😂
20 years ago it was called TCP/Palladium and everyone was afraid this might happen. That was one of the reasons Microsoft implemented TPM chips.
Obviously everyone forget about it until now. Happy new times where Microsoft can dictate which files your, sorry, their computer is allowed to open.
I don’t use Windows.
That is not a good surprise.
I’ve never seen that particular “error” before, but juddging by how it looks you there’s probably a run anyway button hidden under “more info”.
They say “it’s always greener on the other side”. Can’t say it in this case though. I’m using Arch Linux BTW.
On Arch, the grass is whatever color you configure it to be.
I use arch btw
How does Arch run in a laptop? I have a solid Windows laptop that that I’d like to test with Linux but I’m concerned about battery life. I’ve tried Ubuntu and Linux Mint but they seemed to drain battery like no other.
Arch by definition is bare bones, you install what you want or need. Because of that, the installation process can be daunting for newcomers (hint: use the Install guide on their wiki), but you get full control.
I used Arch and Fedora with i3 on my old laptop, imo battery life with those was good.
It depends. It’s mostly good (quite probably better than under Windows), but if there’s unsupported hardware that’s less continuously (which it shouldn’t be) it can drain the battery pretty fast. But that wouldn’t be any different under Windows…
Nobara is great if you’re a gamer. Also if you’re not a gamer. ; )
Isn’t this bypassed by clicking “More info” and the “Run” button appears?
Holy crap. If this is real, this is gotta be the most dystopian thing I’ve seen so far. Time to switch OS and never look back.
Microsoft has a black list of file names including many KVM activators. I think “XVID” is what triggered this one
Lol imagine blacklisting file names
Way more likely “rip” or “HDrip” instead of XviD, which is (or used to be) a super common video codec. Like X264 today.
Imagine still using Windows after all the shit they’ve pulled over the years.
MacOS? at least Unix?
Walled garden? Pass.
Is this windows 11 or 10? That’s absolutely wild, never seen it before.
Sounds like 11, but I have already seen how they try to block any app they don’t like in w10 by calling it dangerous.
11 for sure.
As a Linux Uber-amateur, it feels like we’re basically able to do anything I would want to do on Linux now… the thing where Microsoft tries to not allow you to download stuff because they haven’t paid Microsoft to sign it has always annoyed me. This would be the next level of nope.
One thing that’s kept me on the fence is I like multiplayer games, and I had always heard that battle eye didn’t work on Linux, but with all the proton development and steam deck interest, perhaps this is becoming a non issue?
Can you run any game you want on Linux yet? That’s always been the main thing for me. I like my games, and I have a lot of them from new to going back to '85
If you use Steam like most people, check out protondb. It’s not perfect as it only really shows off Steam games, but it’s a good start. Steam will also let you add a non-steam game to your library and Proton will attempt to work with it, and in general it seems pretty good. The only issue you’ll have is when you get to your super old games as the layer that Proton/Wine uses may not work, but for those you might as well just grab a VM and put a version of Windows on it that the game was built for.
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