Atheists still believe in the supernatural, new report finds
bigthink.com
Just because you don't believe in God doesn't mean you aren't superstitious.

Posting this because I think it’s an interesting examination of the overlap (or lack thereof) between atheists and general skeptics. It’s worth remembering that the term ‘atheism’ only means a rejection of theistic beliefs; non-theistic beliefs that are nonetheless irrational and unsupported by evidence are not relevant to the term. And yet one can easily see why there is an overlap between these two communities and why many atheists scoff at other atheists who profess belief in things like astrology, ghosts, reincarnation, etc.

I’m definitely one of those who doesn’t believe in anything supernatural, but I’ve certainly met atheists who do. It’s worth remembering the two groups aren’t synonymous.

  • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    This is bull and you know it. If you honestly thought agency wasn’t a thing you would have zero problem giving it up and what’s more this is a very problematic view to have. You are seriously going to maintain that a sex slave has as much agency as some rich dude?

    • FringeTheory999@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      No. I’m saying that no one has any agency. Zero agency for anyone. Everything is the direct result of the moment that came before it. This includes your reaction to events, your thoughts, your feelings, your unseemly implication, and the actions you take in your life. If you would like to cause me to modify my view then you’d need to come up with a functional theory that explains how human beings are the exception in an otherwise deterministic universe and free will is possible. If I lost the comforting illusion of agency it would probably suck. Not having agency doesn’t mean we don’t suffer. That is a false dichotomy. Whatever circumstances we find ourselves in, be they good or bad, our reaction to those circumstances would be deterministic.

        • fkn@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          They are describing a wholely deterministic universe (one we don’t currently know the math for). If the universe is 100% deterministic, freewill is an illusion and the argument is moot. If it is not deterministic, the freewill probably exists and this argument is stupid.

          Either free will exists it you are deterministically defined to believe it does. It’s a stupid argument, but still valid.