Hi everyone. Another refugee from reddit here. What’s the drama with the Lemmy teams politics? I’ve seen a few people warn that they’re not great, but the only example that I actually saw was an argumentative back-and-forth in a github issue about filter lists for slurs.
It didn’t seem particularly damning to me.
If you look at the main dev’s profile pictures, they are pictures of Fidel Castro as a young man. They are one of the only new big instances that hasn’t blocked lemmygrad.ml, which is basically a tankie pro-CCP pro-Russian-invasion instance, and it is rumored that they mod them with their alts, and that lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml are hosted on the same IP address. Lemmy.ml being the biggest or one of the biggest instances, and also the main developers being the leaders of that side, it makes sense to worry a bit.
But as others have said, just don’t give them money, sign up elsewhere and you’re good.
Wait, the instance you sign up on can block you from seeing whole other instances? I thought it didn’t matter where you make a account so much cause you can see the other instances. I’m not a tankie so didn’t make my account at lemmygrad, but I still had planned to visit their communities.
Starting to seem like going to need multiple accounts to really use lemmy.
Wait, the instance you sign up on can block you from seeing whole other instances?
Yup. Go to any instance.url/instances (here it’s https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/instances) and you can see what instances they federate with and which they block. You’ll notice even here lemmygrad is blocked x). It is banned on any “respectable” instance because honestly they’re morons but yes, what you say is true.
You can see what the lemmygrad community thinks about this topic here: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/706060. They are aware that most instances have blocked theirs, are planning on moving to lemmy.ml and are all like “ohhh free speech” (when they would host a public central square book burning party to destroy anything that disagrees with communism)
I especially love the last one because it’s all like
“well, we used to censor them because that was good, they “poison public discourse”, but now they censor us, but that’s because we’re better at debates than them” lmao 🤥🤡
Their thoughts
(comment#445674)> They call it “trolling” or “human rights abuse denial” if you disagree with the american narrative. (referring to the fact that they support Russian invasion, deny a few genocides here and there including the Uyghur one and other related topics)
(comment#444777)> My conjecture based on disagreements I’ve had with them, their goal is to draw in libs so that the marxists actually have people to educate. Without them it kinda became an echo chamber.
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(comment#447092 )> Look on the bright side: for most of the history of the Internet socialist states had to block out the flood of lib content to keep it from poisoning public discourse.
Now the tide is turning, and liberals are blocking communists out. On the English-speaking internet we’re still a minority, but they’re scared that if they let us freely compete in their marketplace of ideas, we’d be punching well above our size. Truth is a powerful ally, and their suppression of it is failing.
Great write up, God. Glad to see we have the lord on our instance /s
Sadly I didn’t read your message on time. I was as absent as the real God, which makes sense since I am real and I am God. :) I promise to continue missing almost every prayer!
maybe a stupid question, but are there any instances that exist outside of the ones they federate with or block? for instance (no pun intended), do any subs exist that aren’t federated with but aren’t blocked either? or can they only be one or the other
an instance not federating and not being blocked is an instance that no user has searched for (and that hasn’t been blocked by admins)
I didn’t know federation with instances in general was controlled by searches :D!
They’re full on tankies - this post with admin responses from Lemmy.ml summarizes it well:
Basically it illustrates their intent to remove “orientalism,” aka critique of the Chinese government from any western sources, from any community on lemmy.ml. It’s not a great look, but at the end of the day with how the fediverse is set up, they can only control things hosted on lemmy.ml, not any other instances. It’s one of the few reasons I signed up here instead of there. If their politics are a deal breaker for you, all you have to do is not interact on that one instance.
