As far as I know, socialization of grocery stores has never been tried. Why not try it instead of letting people go hungry, including children? Seems like it’s worth trying to avoid that.
By the way, if capitalism is such a resounding success, why am I in debt thousands of dollars due to medical bills and my wife in debt even more due to student loans? We have decent jobs. We’re middle class. We own a house. We’ve paid off one of our two cars. And we’re drowning. In “successful” capitalism.
USSR had an economic system that is best described as state capitalism, and the political system was an authoritarian dictatorship. Grocery stores weren’t socialized - as in, being run and operated by the collective communities, but operated in full by the state, and members of community had absolutely zero say in anything.
Which countries are those which have a basic capitalist system but socialized grocery stores in food deserts? Please name them.
And yes, I want to argue about capitalism with someone who claims capitalism is a success when it’s ground me and my family into the dirt along with so many others.
The problem with the communist food systems was that they sought to eliminate waste, rather than promoting the sort of over-production that generates it. They planned to feed their people, and their plans regularly came up short.
The socialized component of the US system specifically seeks excessive production, well beyond any likely shortages. We deliberately try to waste food.
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Steps like government-owned supermarkets? I agree. Socialism is great.
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So you agree that a non-capitalistic solution would help. That doesn’t sound like capitalism is a success if you have to do something else sometimes.
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As far as I know, socialization of grocery stores has never been tried. Why not try it instead of letting people go hungry, including children? Seems like it’s worth trying to avoid that.
By the way, if capitalism is such a resounding success, why am I in debt thousands of dollars due to medical bills and my wife in debt even more due to student loans? We have decent jobs. We’re middle class. We own a house. We’ve paid off one of our two cars. And we’re drowning. In “successful” capitalism.
We’re far from alone.
The USSR literally did it. It has been tried.
USSR had an economic system that is best described as state capitalism, and the political system was an authoritarian dictatorship. Grocery stores weren’t socialized - as in, being run and operated by the collective communities, but operated in full by the state, and members of community had absolutely zero say in anything.
The USSR literally had government-run supermarkets in food deserts? Are you sure they were just in food deserts? Because I don’t think that’s correct.
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Which countries are those which have a basic capitalist system but socialized grocery stores in food deserts? Please name them.
And yes, I want to argue about capitalism with someone who claims capitalism is a success when it’s ground me and my family into the dirt along with so many others.
Must be nice to be rich.
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The problem with the communist food systems was that they sought to eliminate waste, rather than promoting the sort of over-production that generates it. They planned to feed their people, and their plans regularly came up short.
The socialized component of the US system specifically seeks excessive production, well beyond any likely shortages. We deliberately try to waste food.