President Joe Biden on Tuesday joined a picket line with striking autoworkers in Michigan, supporting their call for a 40% pay raise and saying they deserve a "lot more" than they are getting.

President Joe Biden on Tuesday joined a picket line with striking autoworkers in Michigan, supporting their call for a 40% pay raise and saying they deserve a “lot more” than they are getting.

Biden’s appearance, the first visit by a U.S. president to striking workers in modern history, comes a day before Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner for president, will speak to auto workers in Michigan. The rare back-to-back events highlight the importance of union support in the 2024 presidential election, even though unions represent a tiny fraction of U.S. workers.

Democrat Biden traveled to a Belleville, Michigan, parts distribution center owned by General Motors (GM.N), and joined dozens of picketers outside. “Companies were in trouble, now they’re doing incredibly well. And guess what? You should be doing incredibly well, too,” Biden said through a bullhorn. “Stick with it.”

    • bobman@unilem.org
      17·
      9 months ago

      No, but just because they’re cool with a shitty deal doesn’t mean it wasn’t a shitty deal.

      It’s easier to fool someone than to convince them they’ve been fooled, after all.

        • bobman@unilem.org
          12·
          9 months ago

          Err… what? I copied and pasted what I wrote before because it was a sufficient response to your comment.

          You seem to have this weird idea that just because they accepted the deal, that it was a good deal. I said that’s not necessarily true. Then you replied saying “yes it is, they know more than you” which completely ignores my point, so I re-iterated it.

            • bobman@unilem.org
              11·
              9 months ago

              Lol, what? I’m countering the point that just because they’ve accepted it doesn’t mean it’s good.

              Just because they are union workers doesn’t mean they weren’t taken advantage of.

              What about this is so hard for you to understand?

              You seem to think that any deal they would’ve taken is a good deal, because they know more about it than you do. That’s a classic appeal to authority, and it’s hilarious that you’re trying to defend it.

              Anyways, goodbye man.

                • bobman@unilem.org
                  12·
                  9 months ago

                  Right. Good thing is I’m not here to convince you.

                  I never said their deal was bad.

                  Your entire argument has been “people can accept bad deals” to get you in striking distance of “they accepted a bad deal.”

                  This is just you replacing my point with something that is easier to argue against. I see it all the time.

                  So yeah, I’m trusting them for now. Because there’s nothing in front of me indicating they are wrong.

                  Go right on ahead man. That doesn’t invalidate my point.