I’m glad they’re actually doing something to help people instead of just complaining.
Remember, waves of people showing up here is the consequence you voted for if you voted republican, you voted for the destabilization of Latin America. And it’s only going to get worse the further the climate gets fucked by republican policy.
Remember, waves of people showing up here is the consequence you voted for if you voted republican, you voted for the destabilization of Latin America
So? That doesn’t make them entitled to coming here.
Sure it does. We played a hand in destroying their countries, their homes, etc. The least we can do to make up for it is give them a new one. That, and stopping the existing things that we are doing to destroy their homes.
They’re coming here to work, to become citizens, to pay their share of taxes. Immigration has been one of the core strengths of our country since pretty much the beginning, it makes no sense for us to loose that strength.
They should’ve had better national defense in place. Not our fault they’ve always been backwards shitholes, even before we came in
They should’ve had better national defense in place.
This is victim blaming.
Not our fault they’ve always been backwards shitholes, even before we came in
They weren’t.
This is victim blaming.
No, it’s international politics.
They weren’t.
So then how come they basically just folded the moment we looked in their direction funny?
So wait, is it from destabilization or climate change? I feel like you’re just throwing out buzz words.
Is it possible that it has anything to do with robust welfare programs, ever increasing concessions to grant non-citizens the rights of citizens, and essentially open borders?
is it from destabilization or climate change?
Right now it’s most just destabilization, but climate migration is projected to increase massively. The UN estimated somewhere on the order of 1.5 billion people by 2050.
We would have to deal with that if we had actually done something about our fossil fuel use.
I feel like you’re just throwing out buzz words
How you feel about those words is irrelevant. Republicans started the war on drugs, installed CIA directors, and supported the overthrow of governments in Latin America. All of which has destabilized the region, and is the biggest cause of all these people trying to migrate.
Is it possible that it has anything to do with robust welfare programs
I sincerely hope this is a joke, because our social programs are a joke.
ever increasing concessions to grant non-citizens the rights of citizens
Our country was founded on immigrants. It was our biggest strength in the 18th and 20th century. Passing it away will just further hurt our nation.
and essentially open borders?
We do not have anything close to open borders. It takes years and thousands of dollars to successfully immigrate and become a U.S. citizen.
Worked and paid taxes since I was 15. Veteran. Would have been nice if the government paid $300/night for a hotel room for me when I was homeless instead of leaving me to exhaust my 401(k)…
They have upwards of 60,000 illegals in their care.
60,000 * 300 * 365 is 6,570,000,000 dollars. Even if families get the same room, thats still well over a billion dollars. Thats just in NYC.
I kinda feel bad for them, even if they did want to be a santuary city despite the warnings.
The NYPost backs my math up. https://nypost.com/2023/09/25/nyc-now-preparing-to-spend-staggering-extra-1b-on-hotels-alone-to-shelter-migrants-for-three-more-years/
The $300 average includes food and other services not normally included in a typical hotel rate. Also, the city can opt out of any of its individual contracts at any time if the migrant population in need of shelter reduces.
This is not the same as housing the homeless, who often will need some form of housing and care from the city/state for their entire lives due to mental illness and/or disability. This is an investment in a future American workforce. Most of these people came here to work.
All true, but importing cheap labor is not a good thing for workers.
Also, I still think 300 is quite high, even if food is included.
I mean, fast food companies and restaurants are hiring children so I think more people in the workforce is a good thing.
Also, most Americans don’t want to pick vegetables in the field or clean bathroom stalls. These people are willing to do the dirty jobs that are necessary for our current way of life.
They hire children because they’re cheap and abusable. They need to pay more.
That sounds like an abuse of power by the employer. I would rather adults work those jobs.
If the business can’t afford to pay adults a livable wage the way they operate, it doesn’t sound like they should be in business.
Exactly! Thank you, someone with common sense!
I’m honestly shocked to see this take here. Shocked but glad.
I submitted applications to all restoraunts around me and never heard back. Just lies.
I’m sorry you’re struggling and I’m not going to debate your job search with you without knowing where you looked and what positions you applied for. It also sounds like I’m not going to convince you no matter what I say.
That’s the problem. There are many Americans who can pick vegetables but lack the work ethic to pick vegetables. We shouldn’t import people because other people are lazy.
Unemployment is at 3.8%, which is pretty good as most economist say < 5% is the bar for a healthy economy. So I would say it’s not that people are lazy, it’s that new industries that provide more economic opportunities appear.
Also, short of economic depression, I’m not sure how you convince lazy people to not be lazy.
Also, short of economic depression, I’m not sure how you convince lazy people to not be lazy.
The USSR’s solution was forced work.
Yeah they are not really a good standard in my opinion.
Unemployment is a fickle number. If somebody is not looking for work, they don’t count.
I always joke with my GF when we pay to pick vegetables. We are paying to do work that people won’t do to get paid.
Yup. The irony of paying to pick apples is not lost on me. But to your point, if someone’s not looking for work, they don’t get government assistance (barring a disability) and probably don’t need to work the jobs thes migrants are going to fill.
That is an insane amount.
