It’s common industry knowledge. I know it because I work in the industry.
If you make chips and you want to sell them to electronics manufacturers or the big distributors, there are certain things you need to do and certain guarantees you need to make. Chinese fabs generally don’t - the Chinese domestic market for chips is huge and easier for them to work in.
So you don’t find any of the big suppliers selling their products. Look around Mouser, Digi-Key, Farnell, etc. and you’ll see exactly what I mean.
Are you avoiding Brand X if none of the places you shop carry Brand X?
The bad reputation China has is due to the large number of counterfeit and off-spec chips that originate there. That’s why electronic components are tracked from fab to factory. A manufacturer has to be able to trust their supply chain.
Every now and again a vital component will have a long lead time and some manager will try rolling the dice by buying from one of the suppliers that doesn’t track chips. Sometimes it pays off. Sometimes the company ends up producing garbage and losing tons of money. That only has to happen once to keep a company from trying it again.
For sources, where should I start? Ask anyone in the industry. Hang out on a forum for electrical engineers. Browse the catalogs from the big suppliers. Crack open any electronic device from a major western manufacturer and look at the names on the chips. The truth is obvious once you look. If it interests you, look into it. If not, move on to the next comment.
Of course, the tankies here think I’m just bad-mouthing their paradise, hence the downvotes. But I’m not. I don’t give a rat’s ass about China one way or another. I’m simply stating a fact - most electronics manufacturers will not be affected one way or another by China’s 3nm process.
I act as if you aren’t completely helpless. Apparently that’s not the case. If you’re representative of what tankies are capable of, we evil western imperialists may sleep safe and sound in their beds.
I meant that you need sources on how lots of companies are trying to avoid mostly-Chinese originated computer chips
It’s common industry knowledge. I know it because I work in the industry.
If you make chips and you want to sell them to electronics manufacturers or the big distributors, there are certain things you need to do and certain guarantees you need to make. Chinese fabs generally don’t - the Chinese domestic market for chips is huge and easier for them to work in.
So you don’t find any of the big suppliers selling their products. Look around Mouser, Digi-Key, Farnell, etc. and you’ll see exactly what I mean.
Are you avoiding Brand X if none of the places you shop carry Brand X?
The bad reputation China has is due to the large number of counterfeit and off-spec chips that originate there. That’s why electronic components are tracked from fab to factory. A manufacturer has to be able to trust their supply chain.
Every now and again a vital component will have a long lead time and some manager will try rolling the dice by buying from one of the suppliers that doesn’t track chips. Sometimes it pays off. Sometimes the company ends up producing garbage and losing tons of money. That only has to happen once to keep a company from trying it again.
For sources, where should I start? Ask anyone in the industry. Hang out on a forum for electrical engineers. Browse the catalogs from the big suppliers. Crack open any electronic device from a major western manufacturer and look at the names on the chips. The truth is obvious once you look. If it interests you, look into it. If not, move on to the next comment.
Of course, the tankies here think I’m just bad-mouthing their paradise, hence the downvotes. But I’m not. I don’t give a rat’s ass about China one way or another. I’m simply stating a fact - most electronics manufacturers will not be affected one way or another by China’s 3nm process.
Again, I would like to see ONLINE sources and statistics, not just anecdotes of your own experience to appeal to authority. Just to clarify…
Then look them up. I gave you plenty of places to start.
You act as if you gave me any internet forums or sites based around this topic. Just give me one, at least…
I act as if you aren’t completely helpless. Apparently that’s not the case. If you’re representative of what tankies are capable of, we evil western imperialists may sleep safe and sound in their beds.
Fine, go ask around on the eevblog forums.
Well, at least thanks for a source…