First Lady Jill Biden tested positive for COVID-19 on Monday night, according to a statement. Jill Biden is experiencing mild symptoms and will stay at their home in Rehoboth Beach, Del., her commu…

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      did you even read the article you linked? kind garbage is “well ackshyually, it’s endemic so the pandemic is over!” that doesn’t mean that covid isn’t a real threat. That’s the stupidest fucking argument you could have possibly made. Know what else is endemic? AIDS. Hepatitis. Malaria. Tuberculosis. Fucking Polio. Changing status from pandemic to epidemic doesn’t magically make it affect less people. It’s really heartless tbh

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        Threat is not what is being discussed. Pandemic status is

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          the original poster is arguing about the administrations response to the pandemic being at best, poorly managed, choosing the stock market over human lives. The dipshit who said “well technically a pandemix isn’t an epidemic” charged in and tried to chagne the conversation to one of fucking etymology. That’s not the point at all. They’re not pissed because of etymology, they’re pissed because the administration could have done A LOT more but CHOSE not to, because stock market

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        And we…have treatments and/or vaccines and public health campaigns for all of those endemic infections just like we will continue to do for Covid?

        I’m not sure why you think endemic is a judgement of risk. It’s not. It’s an epidemiological definition.

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          I’m not even remotely arguing about the semantics of epidemiology, I’m arguing that it’s heartless to argue pedantic shit like that when it’s clearly still affecting people and still needs to be taken seriously, which the original poster is pointing out, and correctly so, that it’s not. The administration pushed for business as usual, choosing the stock market over peoples’ health. And you’re over here injecting that "well technically the word pandemic comes from the greek word pan. NO, that’s not what’s being discussed here at all

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            Except no one pushed for business as usual? Quarantines and higher level pandemic interventions are not appropriate for an endemic infection. We should be vaccinating and masking when there’s an increase in Covid infections. But we should also be doing that for influenza and we don’t.

            I’m not arguing semantics. Pandemic vs. endemic is a factual epidemiological definition. The problem is that we routinely choose not to deal with dangerous endemic infections like influenza. We should always have been doing more.

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      That might be the case globally. Regardless, it was never addressed adequately in the US. Practically everyone I know is dealing with some consequence of long COVID and we’re totally behind on vaccination because the issue was so politicized. If you look at this, what’s still going on at the border (a fucking racist wall to keep a certain ethnicity out), human rights being challenged EVERYWHERE and his climate policy it’s clear Biden doesn’t care all that much about things a leftist president should, at the very least.

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        I see you’re firmly in the “This guy isn’t giving me exactly everything I want so he’s shit!” camp. Cool.

        Biden has quietly been the most leftist President in the country’s history, the most effective climate change President in the country’s history, and the most outspoken in support of historically marginalized communities.

        He’s not perfect, but guess what no one is. And it turns out that enacting policy in line with the will of 80 million voters isn’t limited in scope to just what you’d like the President to do.

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          “This guy isn’t giving me exactly everything I want

          immediately, can’t forget the immediately part.

          These “leftists” in the comments here are just children throwing tantrums, they’re not real leftists, they’re not real anything. They don’t want real solutions, they want mommy and daddy to come in and magically fix all their problems.

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          “ Biden has quietly been the most leftist President in the country’s history, the most effective climate change President in the country’s history, and the most outspoken in support of historically marginalized communities.”

          What? He’s notably right, economically, in my memory, but I’m not his age yet. You…you do know people can be economically right and socially left, don’t you?

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            Also, even if he were the most leftist president in the US^1 That doesn’t make him all that leftist if you look at the breadth of the political spectrum globally.


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              The sheer amount of ostensibly unknowing fascist shills here is disheartening. Ostensibly being key. Psyops are real and governments only have to convince a few then they do the dirty work without an iota of self-probing. Thank you for being honest. It’s refreshing.

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          “most leftist president in our country’s history” Previous presidents have set real low standards, my dude. I’m glad he’s rescheduling pot too but he has not done enough to earn that title or people like you wasting your time on his behalf. He and the DNC ignored a HUGE progressive movement in this country to set him up to sleep through more debates next year. As long as the electoral college decides who’s president I don’t want to endorse either mainstream candidate more than direct action against a inhumane, unhinged, and disconnected government. Still crossing my fingers for a good green candidate, and I’ll probably vote that way, but rioting, purposeful vandalism and organization in equal, abundant measure are the only things that could give me real hope at this point. Wish I could have your optimism and confidence in authority, must be nice.

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        As an actual leftist, I can say with a great deal of authority that Biden is NOT a leftist President. He’s very much capitalist, like Trump

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        Regardless, it was never addressed adequately in the US.

        A problem created by Trump.

        (1) we’re totally behind on vaccination because (2) the issue was so politicized

        Both problems created by Trump.

        what’s still going on at the border

        A problem created by Trump and continued by Texas’s state government.

        human rights being challenged EVERYWHERE

        There are more conservatives EVERYWHERE than there are President Bidens ANYWHERE.

        and his climate policy

        Won’t disagree here, he could do a lot more here.

        A lot of your complaints are problems created by conservatives and criminals, that Biden hasn’t been able to fix. He’s not a progressive superhero and he was never going to be. He’s a janitor, and I don’t see any productivity in getting mad at the guy holding a mop. Yeah, I would have loved Bernie or Warren too, but with the double whammy of first past the post voting and billionaire conservative power-brokers, Biden was always going to be better than the alternative.

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          He’s not trump, yeah yeah. Still doesn’t change the fact he has done a shit job as “janitor” and wasn’t anybody’s first choice except those that convienently ignore his past comments and actions as a individual (smelling little girls, defending segregation, joking about running over reporters, just vile career politician stuff all the way through) But regardless, that shouldn’t be his whole sell though, and it is. I wish I was wrong, but you really can’t deny it’s a super weak one.

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            smelling little girls

            I never got this criticism. It’s weird, but it doesn’t hurt anyone. It’s not sexually or physically abusive, it’s just an odd thing to do.

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              You never got the criticism because it was not actual criticism, it was a malicious meme generated and amplified by the alt right to smear Biden.

              I’m literally going to start at the Know Your Meme page and look up the people in the Spread section:

              On February 17th, 2015, Redditor gaylord__focker uploaded a photograph of Biden whispering into the ear of Stephanie Carter

              https://old.reddit.com/user/gaylord__focker/ (troll)

              On February 18th, Redditor Bossman1086 posted a gif of the moment to /r/gifs.

              https://old.reddit.com/user/Bossman1086/?sort=controversial (libertarian)

              On November 22nd, 2017, YouTuber Paul Joseph Watson uploaded a video titled “Creepy Uncle Joe,”

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Joseph_Watson (the entire Wikipedia intro)

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              Also fascinating to watch so many self-proclaimed “leftists” parrot Fox News talking points. I swear I think some of these people want the fascists to win so they can get their chance to cosplay revolutionary.

              Zero acknowledgement that every revolution in history has violently decimated the working class and only replaced one power hierarchy with another. Oh, but their revolution is gonna be totally different…

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          Yeah dude’s a staunch conservative by any reasonable metric, regardless of what the democrats want everyone to think.

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            Most of his policies were too far right for even Reagan. But we are not supposed to talk about Biden’s history prior to 2019.

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              People fail to acknowledge he was Obama’s VP, too. Nobody wants to admit he’s at least partly the reason Trump gained enough traction to come into office at all in the first place.

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                Trump is Obama’s legacy, had he not turned it on the typical neolib POS the party wouldn’t have lost

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            Lol sorry no. It’s a result of the Overton window shifting so far right in the US that now some people think anti-labor (e.g., response to train worker strike) is somehow leftist. If you have a more complete understanding of the political spectrum you know better.