Two Cruise driverless taxis blocked an ambulance carrying a critically injured patient who later died at a hospital, a San Francisco Fire Department report said, in another incident involving self-driving cars in the city.

On Aug. 14, two Cruise autonomous vehicles were stopped in the right two lanes of a four-lane, one-way street in the SoMa neighborhood, where the victim was found, according to the department report. It said that a police vehicle in another lane had to be moved in order for the ambulance to leave.

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    Okay? If someone lives out in the boonies not even in a town of course there’s not a grocery store near them. But if you’re in even a small town there’s no reason for amenities to be dependent upon driving

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      there’s no reason for amenities to be dependent upon driving

      Except for the surrounding people that use cars to reach them.

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        What does that have to do with small towns? A 30 minute drive away from a small town isn’t living in a small town. It’s living 30 minutes away from one.

        Like I said. There’s no reason for small towns to be car dependent.

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          I don’t think you know what constitutes a ‘small town.’

          You can live in a small town and still be 30 minutes away from a grocery store, which is located in a different town.

          Might want to drive around the US a bit more. It seems your idea of life outside of major cities is skewed based on your own, limited experience.

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            You don’t need more than a couple hundred people to make a grocery store viable. There’s no reason that a grocery store must be so far away.

            Yes many small town are car dependent. That doesn’t mean they need to be. Many big cities are car dependent, but they don’t need to be

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              You raise a good point. It would be possible for these smaller communities to become less dependent on cars if the services they needed were closer.

              I would actually really like to see that, but in today’s climate I don’t think there’s much viability for opening and maintaining grocery stores in small towns. Perhaps a few decades ago, but now that power is so concentrated, any grocery store that isn’t a part of a larger conglomerate wouldn’t be able to compete with the big names on price. It will almost always be cheaper to drive 30 min to a Walmart than to shop at your local Harp’s. (I’ve checked.)

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                That was my entire point. I never said most small towns aren’t car dependent. Just that they don’t have to be

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                  Don’t forget to throw in the part where we have to fix humanity. If a 35 year old woman doesn’t feel safe alone around random people now, imagine how they are going to feel sending their 17 year old son/daughter into those scenarios.

                  Many people currently use their cars as a safe space. Drive to the grocery store, get out and quickly rush in. Safer inside. Get done what they need and rush to their car on the way out. Public transport turns that into a 4 hour ordeal of no safe spots except in the store. Bus stops and buses aren’t safe spots. That rando that creeps you out in the parking lot now, you are going to spend 20 minutes with walking back to the bus stop and waiting with them.

                  Why are they on this bus with me… do I get off by my residence or do I get off elsewhere to hope I lose them before they follow me home. That might be more dangerous.

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                    It shouldn’t take 4 hours on public transit to reach the nearest grocery store. Ideally it would be at most a 15 minute walk