Hence why he’s saying he was “fake banned”. If I go to his profile on the instances he’s banned from, there’s a red “banned” icon next to his username. He was perma banned from the instances and perma banned in the communities of those instances he commented in (modlog shows he was perma banned from a bunch of communities all at once). But he can still comment in communities belonging to the instances he’s banned from, ones he never commented in before.

Does this mean fake bans on Lemmy are a thing? Or are we both misunderstanding something here?

Just in case it’s relevant, he’s banned from dbzer0, lemmy.blahaj.zone, lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, and sh.itjust.works

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    Fake bans aren’t a thing, but banning from an instance doesn’t necessarily ban them from all communities (just the ones they’ve interact with up to the time of the ban).

    This means someone on instance B, who is banned from instance A, can still interact with communities on instance A via instance B if instance B was not informed the person was banned from the community.

    However, a user from instance B, banned from instance A, interacting with a community on instance A via instance B will not have their content federated via instance A (the home instance of the community). Thus, only other users on instance B should be able to see that user’s submissions.

    Clear as mud?

    Edit: Maybe I can clear it up with an example.

    Let’s say you and your friend are both on lemmy.cafe. I see your friend around in the Lemmyverse from my instance, and they’re violating a bunch of my local rules to the point they merit a ban. Your friend has not interacted directly with any communities on my instance, so when I ban them, no community bans are federated.

    You and your friend are both subscribed to, say, [email protected]. Even though your friend is banned from my instance, they can still post/comment there from lemmy.cafe since that instance has no idea they’re banned from mine; non-local bans aren’t federated, and since they hadn’t interacted with that community prior to me banning them, no community bans were sent out.

    However, none of the posts/comments they make to lemmy.cafe’s local copy of that community will be federated by my instance (where the 30 Rock community lives). Thus, only users on lemmy.cafe can see what the banned user has posted.

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      lol [email protected]

      A post from there came up in my All feed and that’s how I figured out I was instance banned from dubvee. They instance ban you for nothing on there.

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      just the ones they’ve interact with up to the time of the ban

      I got banned from 10 communities on your instance (with no stated reason/expiration) and I’m pretty sure I haven’t interacted with most of those (EDIT: I’m remembering some now, though those were from months ago). So I’m not sure if I got marked by some bot or just said something some mod disagreed with.

      This is not an appeal though as I don’t care beyond a casual mention.