🇵🇸Hundreds of PSL members traveled from all across the country for the National March for Palestine in Washington DC, and while this powerful demonstration has concluded, the fight to stop Trump and Netanyahu’s new stage in the genocide is just beginning!

We’re returning to our cities more energized than ever to fight for an arms embargo, an end to the repression against the students, and a free Palestine from the river to the sea!

https://t.me/PSLNational/835?single

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.netEnglish
    4·
    14 hours ago

    Honestly, what kind of a march would it be without PSL leading it?

    It just wouldn’t be the same without the abundance of signature signs with the vespid color scheme.

  • dead [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    18·
    1 day ago

    I like that they’re holding protest signs with actual demands and party logos compared to the liberal protest signs which all have unique memes and one liners like a novelty tshirt.

    • Sol_Tradguy [they/them, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      13·
      1 day ago

      hey comrade, i know you already apologized, but i still want to point to this post as an example of why i take such issue with casual DoomJerking:

      a good chunk of the people on this website you know and (hopefully) care about are in the PSL, even if you don’t know it. These are the people you’re talking so flippantly about being sent to do brutal slave labor for trying to create a better world - and on strong average, it’s way harder to talk about these things in such a detached and offhand manner if you’re actually in the crosshairs and taking the punches and risks of state violence like that. now, i don’t want to make any presumptions about what kind of irl organizing you are or aren’t a part of, but DoomJerking does imply a degree of comfortable, detached distance from the matter that really rubs me the wrong way. this is me and about half of the people i love you’re talking about when you make posts like this - it’s not an abstraction, these are flesh and blood human beings who have inspired each other & created bonds of love with each other that are hard to overstate. please just try to be mindful of this, even when you are feeling deeply depressed and disillusioned with current conditions (which is completely understandable).

      again, i know you did apologize and post a more optimistic sentiment afterward and this is a bigger trend than just you. i just thought it was a good opportunity to hammer out some issues with this kind of thing (which goes way beyond you or this single post of yours so don’t feel too bad) in more detail.

        • Sol_Tradguy [they/them, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          4·
          16 hours ago

          no i know, it’s okay i hope i wasn’t too hard on you Care-Comrade it’s just a general trend in the online left that’s bugged me for a while, and i thought it was a good opportunity & might be helpful to you, me, and anyone reading this thread to maybe explore/clarify exactly why i find it problematic in more detail. kinda as a collective learning/growth thing, idk

    • Cimbazarov [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      9·
      1 day ago

      Reading about operation gladio def makes me paranoid about what America would look like if a communist party ever became a threat. The cope I have is that:

      1. The current far right don’t know what an actual socialist is. They think liberals are socialists.
      2. The defunding of state institutions means less funds for undercover operations. Though I suppose they could be delegated to the police, which would be less organized and subtle

      I think I would be more afraid of a purging of communists under Biden than Trump

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
        8·
        1 day ago

        Though I suppose they could be delegated to the police, which would be less organized and subtle

        Normal cops are not capable of usefully infiltrating PSL. Our vetting is thorough, expectations for commitment are high, and our democratic centralism is impossible for a single shithead to derail - you’ll just get booted if you always gum up the works. And the amount of time you’d need to be in to get any useful secret intel beyond “wow these communists sure have a lot of planning meetings and public events” is literally years. We have worked very hard to build a hard organization and actively study the tactics of COINTELPRO and other state disruptive strategies.

        • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          6·
          1 day ago

          Normal cops are not capable of usefully infiltrating PSL. Our vetting is thorough, expectations for commitment are high, and our democratic centralism is impossible for a single shithead to derail - you’ll just get booted if you always gum up the works. And the amount of time you’d need to be in to get any useful secret intel beyond “wow these communists sure have a lot of planning meetings and public events” is literally years. We have worked very hard to build a hard organization and actively study the tactics of COINTELPRO and other state disruptive strategies.

          This is really hopeful to hear bloomer

      • XiaCobolt [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        7·
        1 day ago

        Became a threat again.

        Because the black panthers were enough of a threat to jail and murder a bunch. Similarly they put CPA leaders in prison during the red scare. And before that killing and arresting various IWW leaders.

  • Xenomorph [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    23·
    1 day ago

    This is cool but I mean it feels like we’re past the point of marching and protesting when things are the way they are, no? Don’t take this as an endorsement to do some dumb adventurism either. Yesterday I had to delete one of my comments because it was spicy and any fed could use it against me.

    • jack [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      61·
      1 day ago

      Well PSL does much, much more than just protest. These are old-school demonstrations to show numbers, flex organizational muscle, create political unity, and bring new people into the movement. But most of our day-to-day work is not doing rallies.

          • jack [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
            31·
            1 day ago

            Big national mobilizations like this a really useful for cadre building, too. To pull this off, the party needs:

            1. Media apparatus to effectively communicate it

            2. The logistical capacity to move thousands of people from across the country to a single location

            3. The production capacity to print the high quantity of materials, including a lot of specialty items like the list of names of martyrs

            4. The communication infrastructure to coordinate thousands of people on the day of

            5. The technical know-how to setup, operate, and tear down stages and AV for speakers and other infrastructure

            6. The ability to mobilize other orgs in coalition on our political line

            7. The discipline and safety skills to quickly and efficiently march thousands of people across one of the highest security cities on earth

            8. An internal political education apparatus to make all party members effective political communicators to the non-party attendees

            9. The photography and media production to demonstrate it effectively afterwards

            10. The managerial apparatus to coordinate all of the above into a single day of action

            This is a massive operation with literally hundreds of party members all carrying out specific, designated roles, including a lot of specialty technical skills. We’ve done a bunchv of these over the past two years, and every one we’ve gotten more efficient and built essential skills in a huge number of cadre. That creates a more disciplined and unified political organization better fit for the task of making revolution.