It seems odd to me that it’s not banned outside of medically necessary situations or for when the person has informed consent.
I feel less than other men , apparently.
That cut deep…
I support banning non-therapeutic infant circumcision. I also recommend non-surgical foreskin restoration to anyone curious about greener pastures.
I feel that’s a lot more common in the USA than in other countries. Google says in Germany where I live it’s 10%. And worldwide it’s 30% and in the USA it is 70%. I mean there are worse things out there but to me it is just weird to mess with infants like that.
I was with a dude once whose foreskin was super tight and couldn’t even be pulled down when flaccid. I normally have no opinion about it one way or the other, but for things like that it might be a good idea to get cut.
I was with a dude once whose foreskin was super tight and couldn’t even be pulled down when flaccid.
That’s called phimosis and is an actual medical condition where it makes sense to remove part of the foreskin.
Other than that, without informed consent (which a baby/child obviously can’t give) it’s genital mutilation, plain and simple, and should be punished as such. It’s a remainder of barbaric times where the concept of enjoyable sex was considered evil and masturbation in particular was to be prevented at any cost. The excuses about health, hygiene etc. are just convenient lies.
Personally I’ve heard (anecdotal evidence) from men who had a circumcision as adults (either by choice or for medical reasons) and some say the sex afterwards was better, some say it was worse. The point is, either way it should be an informed decision by the person whose penis is affected, and not by anybody else.
and some say the sex afterwards was better,
Circumcision will lower the sensitivity of the penis. This will lead to longer sex when younger, but there are very obvious downsides. Everyone should decide themselves as young adults.
I think the topic was supposed to be about babies and children. Anyway, surgery is an option, but not the only one.
Bitter.
it’s dumb and bad and wrong
It’s a procedure in search of indications. Unethical and surprisingly still common and covered by insurance. No doctor would perform aesthetic surgery on a child for any other reason save ear piercings, i don’t think it’s as common as it used to be, but an infant couldn’t consent to that either.
For some reason, I’ve encountered lots of moms (occasionally would get a “hell no” from dad though) whose biggest concern after their son was born is when the circ was going to be performed. I wish the medical organizations would put some more focus on the ethics and aspect of consent/assent. There’s a lot of talk about research in public health about how it may or may not affect STI rates, and then the argument gets stuck on risks/benefits rather than ethics.
It ultimately is a procedure rooted in cultural and religious practice, and the American medical establishment is pretty slow, especially in that aspect.
If you tried to get your newborn daughter a labiaplasty so that she would be “more appealing to boys once she’s old enough”, you would rightfully be scolded and kicked out of every respectable medical practice you asked at. It’s fucking gross to be sexualizing a literal newborn like that, and yet I used to regularly see people on Reddit use that as a good reason to circumcise your son.
And any “hygiene” justification is just grasping at straws. Do we cut off people’s ears so they don’t have to spend 30 seconds cleaning them every day? No. Just teach your kids how to clean themselves and it’s a non-issue.
