• RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    If the Houthi Militia do not want to be attacked they have to stop attacking cargo ships. No one should be defending the Houthi Militia unless you support killing innocent sailors for some fucked up reason.

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      If the US doesn’t want it’s ships attacked, then it should stop arming Israel. No one should be defending the US government unless you support killing innocent Palestinians for some fucked up reason.

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      By that logic shouldn’t Israel stop the crimes against humanity it’s currently undertaking in Gaza if it doesn’t want shipping attacked?

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        No, because Israel’s attacks aren’t really related to the Houthi attacks. The Houthi are claiming solidarity with Palestine but the actions aren’t related.

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          They had stopped them for a solid period until Saudi airstrikes began again, and Israeli crimes against humanity in Gaza got more blatantly underway.

          Might be worth giving it a try if we care about human life.

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              I assume you think Pakistan and China’s attacks on the Baloch people are valid as well, then?

              Since how dare an exploited ethnic minority have some of its members turn to violence against a hostile state.

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                Are the Balochs attacking innocent civilians in international waters? As they aren’t this is a false equivalence.

                The Houthi represent the plurality within Yemen. The overthrew the coalition government starting the civil war. They are not an oppressed minority rather they are a group that represents the largest group and want to oppress others.

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                  I’m sorry, I figured taking a train load of people hostage or repeated bombings of public transport would be equivalent enough.

                  The Houthi, and other Zayidi Shia groups, have been discriminated against legally and culturally since the at least the 80s. (At least in part a response to Zaydi rule during the Ottoman Period).
                  I can’t find straight ethnic group numbers, but most sources state them to be a minority, so I’d assume that that’s the largest single smaller than 50% group. And given the diversity of peoples in Yemen, makes the religious aspect more important.

                  Not all good though, the Houthi movement could (should) be doing better on treatment of Bahaï and Jewish people, and the treatment of women could be better, but the Houthi forces are also engaged in combat with Al Qaeda, who would be much worse.

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      if the cargo ships don’t want to be attacked, their owners/nations can embargo the core of the zionist death cult.

      it’s really fucking simple. you do genocide; people are gonna try and kill you sometimes, partisans are just gonna fucking happen places, and they’re going to be in the right, even when they’re otherwise complete fucking assholes. which also has the unfortunate effect of making total fucking assholes look good sometimes, because even a complete fucking piece of shit can tell genociding innocent people when there is literally any other option is wrong and needs to be stopped. which zios and their american minions are also on the hook for. every houthi bomb is just a product of american support for their zio masters.

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        Many of these ships have nothing to do with Israel.

        Why do you think the Iranian propaganda you are currently maintaining reflects the facts on the ground?

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          many. so not all. maybe, if you want to protect your international shipping, you could lift literally a single finger to stop the FUCKING GENOCIDE that is destabilizing world politics? just embargo them. there. now everyone can be sure no ships are zionist, and there’s no excuse, and the ‘iranian propaganda’ can’t possibly work!

          or do you just want to protect the zios?

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            No I want to protect the innocents on the ships who are getting murdered by The Houthi for no reason. These ships are not connected to the war or any party in that war in many cases.

            What you are supporting is terrorists murdering innocent sailors to stop a war they have nothing to do with, why?

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              but the innocents being murdered in gaza, they’re cool? right? it’s cool to support the terrorists doing that and explicitly saying “we want to do a genocide” while showing that their ambitions will not stop until they are stopped?

              it’s cool to support THOSE terrorists?

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                I never said anything about Gaza so don’t put words in my mouth. The Houthi are claiming they are doing this in solidarity but they attacked ships during th ceasefire which is at odds with that claim.

                It’s weird that anyone who isn’t in theory racist and ostensibly cares about peace would back The Houthi Militia who instigated the civil war and whose ideology is overtly racist.

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                  what ceasefire? there was no ceasefire. zio words are worth nothing. there are no ceasefires, nobody is fucking stupid enough to believe in them anymore.

                  honestly? if not for this? I would never be on side with the houthis. but they’re opposing a genocide, and im willing to work with some pretty shitty people to stop the genocide of innocent people. any good press the houthis are getting is on the zios and their minions making them look good in comparison.

                  if there were good guys, and they had resources approximating what the houthis have, this is what they would be doing.

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                    There had been a ceasefire which Israel broke that the Houthi attacked boats during.

                    The Houthi are murdering innocent people on cargo ships that are unrelated to the Israeli invasion of Palestine. They aren’t doing anything in actual solidarity with Palestine.

                    So if you aren’t racist, and you oppose the killing of innocent people, and you are anti-war why back the Houthi?