This came up in my health care forum.
Right now, you can legally detain someone medically when they are a danger to themselves or others for up to 72hrs. The details vary by state, but this is how we lock down individuals trying to suicide or someone mentally off the rails making threats of violence.
This variation on that law would also make opposition to Trump qualify.
Civil commitment can follow as with individuals who have profound mental illness and are not safe to be out in the world.
This is the loudest scream that democracy is dead short of hauling people out into the street and shooting them.
It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.
this is the begining of the hard line ‘send the disableds and crazies to work camp’. This would bag more artists, history teachers, and journalists than many folks realize.
Wouldn’t be that hard to add a little language to make it anyone disagreeing with supreme cheeto or his generous sponsors/overlords.
I really home Minnesota residents are kicking hard over this. I better check my local leg website and see if we have anything similar coming up. Might as well make an RSS feed about it…
Where are all those tyranny fighters with their guns?
Hello? Freedom fighters?
Right here! Best I can do is shoot them through the door when they come for me. Exactly what else can I do?
And be damned glad so many of us are armed or the fascists would be cutting through us like butter. Their next steps will soon be limiting or taking guns from the left and minorities. This proposal is part of that.
Hello? Freedom Fighters?
If fire fighters fight fire, and crime fighters fight crime, what do you think a “freedom fighter” actually fights?
Dun dun duuuunnnnnnn
And yet, there is actual proof (albeit circumstantial) that conservatism is literally the result of brain damage. (eg. Fetterman)
Gotta love the unintentional irony of a bill that addresses the supposed mental illness of Trump opponents in such a way that it vividly illustrates the very real mental illness of Trump supporters.
Guess who they learned this one from: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
Their projection is wild- assume anything that they accuse their opponents of, they are guilty of that thing. I’m not aware of any examples that don’t track
Stay classy conservatives: “Anyone who disagrees with me is mentally ill.”
I’ve been dealing with abuse from people like this since 2020. There is a war going on. People need to start understanding that.
It’s not a game anymore.
Fascism isn’t at the door anymore. It’s a home invasion.
Michael Savage has been broadcasting this precise message to conservatives since 1995.
An involuntary mental health hold will also restrict your rights to firearms for a long time afterwards too and need to involve psychiatrists and courts agreeing you are no longer a danger to yourself or others.
Which makes now the best time to get a firearm if you’re considering it. Just be sure to sign up for some training classes too.
First they try and steal the legislature, now they try and make protest a mental condition. Obviously this won’t go anywhere but the fact that 5 people signed onto this lunacy says plenty.
obviously won’t go anywhere? I wouldn’t take that for granted at all.
In the state where Tim Walz is governor and the R only have a barely 50% in one house I would see it as trolling at best.
Sometimes trolling gathers momemtum or is an effective exhaustion tactic. Probably good tobsend thank u notes to representitives who vote to protect their constituency from this b.s.
Idk why anyone would try to minimize this horror show. It’s not something we can sleep through and expect to wake up from.
Largely because expending notable energy on everything with no reasonable chance of becoming reality is playing right into the firehouse-of-bullshit they use.
Canada won’t become a state. We won’t invade Greenland Or Panama Or lock people up for saying Trump sucks, at least not here and now…
What they will do is what’s already going on, stripping rights from vulnerable groups, plundering agencies and installing their own people, looking to control the media narrative, using whatever tools they can to entrench their ideals without resorting to things that might get them shot.
You think the George Floyd protests where something, just wait till the right spark sets things off this time versus the rich and right wing.
Yeah. I’m specifically saying bills like this are the more immediate threat than expansionism. I’m suggesting people check around in their own jurisdiction.
We can react to things with proportional energy to the threat. No need to employ a false binary here.
THIS is the critical rights stripping that needs to be stoppes – Even if MN is less vulnerable in your opinion, it’s a fair prompt to check the radar and trace the spread.
Like reproductive rights stripping – it gets through in vulnerable areas and then does a LOT of cumulative damage. In the case of medical care denial, long term damage. This kind of thing? Not so long term.
Go ahead and just say you don’t think this effects you personally, if that’s the way of it. No need to neg on people who are ready to engage. It’s not like we all panic and pass out. Some groups have learned to pace themselves and refresh their communities between actions. (potlucks. it’s litterally parties and potlucks…)
Which is why I specifically said ‘notable energy’ which to me is the ‘calling everyone and marching in the streets’ kind of reaction. I would take this as more a ‘we see you and are telling you it’s bullshit’ response. Or maybe get someone to file a similar but opposite proposal to highlight the stupidity of it.
Not a negging thing, and being in MN it certainly would affect me, but I don’t see the former Democrat VP candidate signing it even if it did by some miracle get to his desk.
sounds like we agree and have just a little gap in language or scope.
I just know if something such gets passed in my state, that the panel vans are going to be out and about, and getting pulled over for nothing at all turns into a likely imprisonment. For me and loved ones personally. No abstracts.
I’ve already had enough close calls with freelance bullies ready to hatecrime for fun or fear or being seen out of line to know there is a will to follow through with this kind of license for harm.
Anyway, I’m done with this back and forth for today and going to go do that research I mentioned.
Thanks for visiting the acropolis today, neighborino.
Change it to put a mental health hold on any person that supports Trump and you got yourself an accurate, useful bill.
Link didn’t work for me.
Will the 72 hours count against my pto?
