Ah yes being sceptical of a random online photo is clearly the same as being skeptical. You need to work on your bots ai as it foesnt seem very good at responding to context
Right so you arent responding to this conversation. If you were you would have the context needed to understand and not make insert bot upset claims and hyperbolic strawmam claims
You can go down the reply chain and check. There’s no image here in this comment chain. In the future, since you apparently cannot distinguish between multiple conversations, you should probably stick to replying to one person.
What I personally love about Lemmy in comparison to Reddit is the sheer mass of bot alligations. I guess it comes from the fact that the site is still small and, in theory, someone could influence a significant part of the discourse with just a few.
The entertainment factor on the other hand is so incredibly worth it. Seing some shmuck completely destroyed and then throwing with shit and bot allegations when he is clearly just wrong will never be not funny.
If you don’t mind me, my master is about to turn me off
Beep boop, have a good one
No the bot accusations come from their account and the fact they reposts a crap tonne of content from reddit on just about every community.
That and the weird as fuck jump to extremes although thats a pretty common knee jerk thing in online discourse.
If they arent a bot…wow.well i guess i shouldnt be surprised the more niche the online platform the greater number of autistic people trying to find their own circle of normalcy.
Yeah. It is. When someone does the Nazi salute in public, they are telling you who they are, and you should believe them.
The previous sentiment goes for anyone. When they clearly tell you, through actions not words, who they are, you would be wise to believe them. It is extremely rare that someone intentionally acts against their own personal interests at the time of their actions. They may unknowingly do so, such as by voting for Nazis, but rarely do they do so intentionally.
The party is full of (Neo)Nazis, even in high ranks; one of them may even officially be called Nazi. Their whole program and style is essentially NSDAP playbook.
The most nazi thing in the links you provided were the government banning certain slogans.
What is your definition of nazi as that will probably explain a few things.
You had use of a banned slogan. A nazi accusation, party memeber leaving due to claims of right wing infiltration.
None of that is evidence of them being nazi’s. Sus for sure but pretty weak.
I just did another quick google search regarding the somewhat recent arrests from that attempted coup. Albeit they were former members of the party so i guess too extreme for the AFD. And well not very competent or numerous.
They are against immigrants, want to suppress freedom, want to separate kids with disabilities from other kids in schools, etc.
They not just tolerate but supports Nazis like Höcke, who btw. told an inteviewer once that once he’s in power, the interviewer will regret asking those questions.
I mean sure, we can pretend that they are not as bad as the NSDAP was back then and do the same thing we did with the NSDAP: giving them power. But then we will just end up with the next Nazi government like last time. I would prefer not to.
Not a nazi thing. Lot of governments are. While not the most economically beneficial it is a countries right to want them or not.
want to suppress freedom,
They have a government that banns slogans/free speech.
Is the current german government nazi’s?/facist?
By all means it can make them tyrannical or authotarian but doesnt make them nazi’s unless said limitation of freedom is based
On control of everything inside the state
Nothing aganist the state
And nothing outside the state.
Then yeah thats Grade A nazi’s
want to separate kids with disabilities from other kids in schools,
If they are coming at it from an ubermensch angle then yeah sure. Depending on the disability there is plenty of valid reasons to want seperate classes. Personal example is that we have a special ed class for kids that are on the spectrum that makes them incompatible with other students or larger classes. But im guessing its not something reasonable like that.
etc. They not just tolerate but supports Nazis like Höcke, who btw. told an inteviewer once that once he’s in power, the interviewer will regret asking those questions
As scum of the earrh journalists can be. Not a good choice of words as a politician.
Sure, you can relativize each individual point and completely ignore the big picture. Just remember that even the NSDAP didn’t advertise themselves with “vote for us so we can slaughter 6 million people and start a world war”. If you want to ignore that the AfD shows the same signs as the NSDAP did before they got control, sure. But don’t cry when we end up with the next piece of shit Nazi government in Germany that starts to errode democracy until it has full power.
I have no issue with taking signs seriously it’s just that your signs with the exception of the suppression of freedoms sign. Arent nazi/facist exclusive. The worlds full of problems and nazi’s are no longer the biggest ones. Far more corrupting and damaging influences that take priority and my concerns
More tolerated? Let me know when the nazi’s win an election
Braydox on his way to the camps: “Okay, but they haven’t actually killed us yet, so are they really Nazis?”
It’s awfully convenient that your criteria for “Are Nazis a problem” is “Have they already won”
Ah yes being sceptical of a random online photo is clearly the same as being skeptical. You need to work on your bots ai as it foesnt seem very good at responding to context
You: “Let me know when the nazi’s win an election”
Me: “It’s awfully convenient that your criteria for “Are Nazis a problem” is “Have they already won””
Don’t see where a ‘random online photo’ comes into it, but I suppose I shouldn’t expect too much of enlightened centrists who carry water for Nazis.
Right so you arent responding to this conversation. If you were you would have the context needed to understand and not make insert bot upset claims and hyperbolic strawmam claims
You can go down the reply chain and check. There’s no image here in this comment chain. In the future, since you apparently cannot distinguish between multiple conversations, you should probably stick to replying to one person.
It was just below this comment but Ok.
As for you. Your not a person. Dont be getting self aware on me now.
https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/Y1OWZzktKjBi021FPDNKZS_nsso=/1400x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/6OKFQFGQ5QKQ7YS66UWXCB2QNQ.jpg
What I personally love about Lemmy in comparison to Reddit is the sheer mass of bot alligations. I guess it comes from the fact that the site is still small and, in theory, someone could influence a significant part of the discourse with just a few. The entertainment factor on the other hand is so incredibly worth it. Seing some shmuck completely destroyed and then throwing with shit and bot allegations when he is clearly just wrong will never be not funny. If you don’t mind me, my master is about to turn me off Beep boop, have a good one
No the bot accusations come from their account and the fact they reposts a crap tonne of content from reddit on just about every community.
That and the weird as fuck jump to extremes although thats a pretty common knee jerk thing in online discourse.
If they arent a bot…wow.well i guess i shouldnt be surprised the more niche the online platform the greater number of autistic people trying to find their own circle of normalcy.
Here’s a photo from the Republican National Convention
Ah perfect evidence.
Yeah. It is. When someone does the Nazi salute in public, they are telling you who they are, and you should believe them.
The previous sentiment goes for anyone. When they clearly tell you, through actions not words, who they are, you would be wise to believe them. It is extremely rare that someone intentionally acts against their own personal interests at the time of their actions. They may unknowingly do so, such as by voting for Nazis, but rarely do they do so intentionally.
No its not. Its a screenshot devoid of context.
How long have you been on the internet that you are given an image and take that image at face value?
I saw the video, which had context. She brazenly did a Nazi salute, and you are sealioning, which indicates that you’re a Nazi sympathizer.
Its amazing what context can do when you have it.
Let me introduce you to the AfD that already occupy a few local constituencies.
By all means a quick google seaech tells me they are cringe but not nazi’s
https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/news/anklage-gegen-thueringer-afd-chef-bjoern-hoecke-wegen-ns-vokabular-li.355905
https://www.stern.de/amp/politik/deutschland/afd-aussteigerin---die-nazis-in-der-partei-stoeren-die-leute-nicht-mehr--33744578.html
https://www.hessenschau.de/politik/demonstranten-duerfen-afd-politiker-bjoern-hoecke-als-nazi-bezeichnen-v1,ermittlungen-hoecke-ist-ein-nazi-eingesellt-100.html
https://taz.de/AfD-Parteitag-in-Magdeburg/!5947746/
The party is full of (Neo)Nazis, even in high ranks; one of them may even officially be called Nazi. Their whole program and style is essentially NSDAP playbook.
The most nazi thing in the links you provided were the government banning certain slogans.
What is your definition of nazi as that will probably explain a few things.
You had use of a banned slogan. A nazi accusation, party memeber leaving due to claims of right wing infiltration.
None of that is evidence of them being nazi’s. Sus for sure but pretty weak.
I just did another quick google search regarding the somewhat recent arrests from that attempted coup. Albeit they were former members of the party so i guess too extreme for the AFD. And well not very competent or numerous.
But thats kinda something.
https://www.google.com/search?q=afd+party+arrests&oq=afd+party+arrests&aqs=chrome..69i57.5059j0j7&client=ms-android-gotron&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
They are against immigrants, want to suppress freedom, want to separate kids with disabilities from other kids in schools, etc. They not just tolerate but supports Nazis like Höcke, who btw. told an inteviewer once that once he’s in power, the interviewer will regret asking those questions.
I mean sure, we can pretend that they are not as bad as the NSDAP was back then and do the same thing we did with the NSDAP: giving them power. But then we will just end up with the next Nazi government like last time. I would prefer not to.
They are against immigrants,
Not a nazi thing. Lot of governments are. While not the most economically beneficial it is a countries right to want them or not.
want to suppress freedom,
They have a government that banns slogans/free speech.
Is the current german government nazi’s?/facist?
By all means it can make them tyrannical or authotarian but doesnt make them nazi’s unless said limitation of freedom is based
On control of everything inside the state Nothing aganist the state And nothing outside the state.
Then yeah thats Grade A nazi’s
want to separate kids with disabilities from other kids in schools,
If they are coming at it from an ubermensch angle then yeah sure. Depending on the disability there is plenty of valid reasons to want seperate classes. Personal example is that we have a special ed class for kids that are on the spectrum that makes them incompatible with other students or larger classes. But im guessing its not something reasonable like that.
etc. They not just tolerate but supports Nazis like Höcke, who btw. told an inteviewer once that once he’s in power, the interviewer will regret asking those questions
As scum of the earrh journalists can be. Not a good choice of words as a politician.
Sure, you can relativize each individual point and completely ignore the big picture. Just remember that even the NSDAP didn’t advertise themselves with “vote for us so we can slaughter 6 million people and start a world war”. If you want to ignore that the AfD shows the same signs as the NSDAP did before they got control, sure. But don’t cry when we end up with the next piece of shit Nazi government in Germany that starts to errode democracy until it has full power.
I have no issue with taking signs seriously it’s just that your signs with the exception of the suppression of freedoms sign. Arent nazi/facist exclusive. The worlds full of problems and nazi’s are no longer the biggest ones. Far more corrupting and damaging influences that take priority and my concerns