gaza: trump has said directly that he wants to level gaza and take it over for the US;

Biden was leveling Gaza, and Harris said she’d keep giving Israel free reign to engage in a genocide.

internationally: people will die in ukraine; perhaps a lot of people, and who knows whether the conflict will escalate further from here given the fragmentation trump has and will cause

That was going to happen, sooner, or later. It was going to escalate, because the aggressor was given very little reason to NOT escalate it.

however you slice it, trump is going to cause significantly more deaths…

Honestly, the raw numbers will likely be about the same. The difference is where. Right now, it looks like “mostly in the US”.

i understand for sure the argument that if you vote for democrats anyway, where’s the line? when do you punish them so that they learn?

And this is why you never support things like genocide, or stripping people of their rights. Not just when it’s the other party doing it.

granted, i’m not a US citizen so my “support” is limited to trying to convince people on the internet to not fuck over the world

Its a great lesson for other countries to not rely on the US, a fascist state,.