• hooferboof@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    Except if you ask anyone that’s ever had to deal with workers comp its always too little too late and a mountain of bullshit. Workers comp is arguably even worse than normal health insurance companies to deal with.

    • Ricky Rigatoni 🇺🇸@lemm.ee
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      21 hours ago

      When my mom needed workers comp they had her do x-rays six months later then tried to say it was a six month old preexisting condition.

    • RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
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      21 hours ago

      Again in theiry the difference is workman’s comp still provides a service whereas other than rent seeking I am not sure what us health insurers do.

      • spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        10 hours ago

        Workers comp insurance fights about as hard as other insurance companies to fuck you over. My girlfriend ended up rather disabled after an incident at her job and their workman’s comp fight like hell to blame a previously unknown health condition, and the LTD people managed to get out of paying once STD ran out and she didn’t have the money to fight it.

        Insurance is insurance, and fuck them all.

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        21 hours ago

        In theory regular insurance provides the same benefits as worker’s comp and the cost of both come out of paychecks one way or the other.

        Worker’s comp is just insurance with even more steps.

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            20 hours ago

            Workman’s comp isn’t just covering hospital bills, it also covers lost wages while recovering or retaining if you can’t go back to your old profession.

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                19 hours ago

                Unemployment is a no-fault general fund for a regular result of an economy. Workman’s comp is (as in its name) is compensatory. They’re giving workman’s comp because otherwise you might be able to sue for damages due to an unsafe workplace.

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                  11 hours ago

                  I’m saying if you can’t work it makes more sense for that to be centralized into one thing instead of two. The reason for why matters far less than the reason for that one can’t work.

                  They’re giving workman’s comp because otherwise you might be able to sue for damages due to an unsafe workplace.

                  No, you can still sue even if you take workman’s comp. Workman’s comp exists because regular insurance decided that it doesn’t cover you at work just like they decided they didn’t cover preexisting conditions, injuries due to accidents, or any other stupid thing they came up.

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                    11 hours ago

                    That’s generally not true. Only in very few instances can you sue your employer after taking workman’s comp.

                    https://www.hhrlaw.com/blog/2024/february/does-accepting-workers-comp-mean-i-cant-file-a-l/

                    And there’s a good reason to make the business foot the bill in some form: because it motivates them to not have an unsafe workplace. Whether that’s due to increase premiums, direct suits, or governmental punishment, unsafe businesses should pay for their failures rather than being subsidized by the general public.

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            17 hours ago

            No, then you allow employers to export their job risk cost to others. Employers should pay for injuries and illness caused by work (if care was required it would be great if universal existed).

            That said, yes lots of WC is shitty insurers trying toinimize care/cost and get the person back to work.

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            19 hours ago

            Automobile insurance would be drastically less as well.

            Everything would be far less complicated and expensive if we did universal healthcare.