(Ronald) Donat is among at least 29 recruits who died during basic training at law enforcement academies around the country in the last decade, an AP investigation found. Most died of exertion, dehydration, heat stroke and other conditions tied to intense exercise — often on the first day of training, like Donat. Others died several weeks in, sometimes after suffering trauma during boxing or use-of-force drills or collapsing during high-stakes timed runs on hot days.
Experts and police advocates were surprised by AP’s findings — based on an extensive review of lists of law enforcement deaths in every state, workplace safety records and news reports — and said many of the deaths were preventable. No federal agency or outside organization comprehensively tracks recruit deaths, unlike officers who die in the line of duty.
Black recruits represented nearly 60% of those who died, a striking disparity given that federal data show Black officers make up 12% of local police forces. Many carried sickle cell trait, a condition most prevalent among Black Americans that increases the risk of serious injury following extreme exertion.
Oh shit new counter statistic just dropped
despite making up only 12% of local police forces…
Seeing how US police forces act it is amazing that they have had training at all.
The training is mostly about how to avoid consequences for shooting minorities and beating up elderly protesters.
The only good cops. Now if we can just convince the rest to follow their example …
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For all we know, they could be the ones who tried to be the change we all want to see and thus got purposely weeded out.
Or they all could’ve been the worst of the worst. Considering their chosen profession, it’s far more likely that they would’ve turned out to be just as big, a piece of shit as any other cop.
Selection bias. You’re basing this on what you know of active cops. The ones who died were not active cops.
I always find it rather amusing when people claim to be Internet psychics. You don’t know what I based my statement on. But I’ll tell you: all cops and those who want to be cops. Cops are screened so that only dumb authoritarian bullies are even allowed to train to become cops.
Next time you try to be an Internet, psychic, don’t be so terribly wrong about it.
You told me that you’re judging them for their chosen profession. Admittedly, I may be lacking in imagination here, but I don’t see what other information you could be basing these judgements on if it’s not their public behaviour or knowing literally every single person who’s ever wanted to be a cop and their motivation. The filtering process is irrelevant when we’re talking about the decision to go through the process at all.
“Wow, this system is corrupt and oppresses the working class, I’d better sign up” good riddance edit: I regret saying good riddance, it is petty and callous.
You can’t imagine changing the system so that it stops being oppressive?
Not a system that has shown time and time again that it is severely flawed. If you are trying to join a system and change it from within, you cant expect to reach an influential level if the system is so largely corrupt without accepting and participating in that corruption. As such people who volunteer to enter the system are likely looking to participate and not change.
Ever meet a kid that wanted to be a cop? Why do you think they had such aspirations? Surely not to uphold the status quo and maintain the power structures in our society. They’re idealistic kids who think they’ll be helping make the world a better place. That dream doesn’t suddenly die for everyone upon reaching adulthood. Would it be effective? Maybe not. But it’s not like people don’t make poor life decisions all the time.
Who is going to protect you from others if you can’t fight and don’t own a gun?
I am not responsible for your lack of imagination.
It would be interesting to see how you would react if the police didn’t respond to a distress call you made.
Ew, copaganda
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On the contrary, corrupt cops should be called out.
All cops are bastards
How is demonizing someone for their profession any better than demonizing someone for their sexual orientation
Lmao, classic
If there are no police, then who is expected to enforce the laws? Unfortunately, a society on our scale does not function well without someone to do this rather distasteful job.
It also comes down to the laws themselves, and a lack of social supports. There should be a lot more money going into things like treatment and housing, to help prevent people from having to offend or having the desire to do so.
I disagree with your premise itself
You seem to be under the assumption that I’m a lib who accidentally took “defund the police” too far. I’m an anarchist who believes we shouldn’t have laws at all
Ultimately, you may get your wish if ORAGNE and his South African chimp continue to ravage the world along with Pooping.
How is demonizing someone for their profession any better than demonizing someone for their sexual orientation?
Because you choose to be a cop. Nobody chooses their sexual orientation … you just are.
It also increasingly sounds like you’re a cop yourself, trying to defend the indefensible.
Then if you find the cops bad, why not become one, despite your distaste for the profession? Someone needs to do the work, better a conscientious individual such as yourself.
Alternatively, create a better system of crime mitigation on a local level and lead by example. It would be better for society as a whole for people to stop being so complacent, and change things in their local community.
Like just about everything in the world the adage that change comes from within only works on a personal level, never at institutional level.
Besides, I’m over 65 so a bit late to move to the dark side.
But you can still be involved! Get on the community oversight boards, or volunteer.
Then if you find the cops bad, why not become one, despite your distaste for the profession?
“If you don’t like concentration camps, why not sign up to be a guard there!”
How is demonizing someone for their profession any better than demonizing someone for their sexual orientation?
Seriously? One of those things is a choice, the other isn’t.
The two have in common the fact that a part of their identity (regardless of choice), is being attacked for no other reason than that. Demonizing people is demonizing people.
Are you going to demonize or mock someone who has chosen to be a cleaner or a fast food worker? Are you going to demonize or mock someone who believes in God, and is living peacefully with their neighbours?
I don’t call the cops. I call my friends. The last thing I want when I’m “in distress“ is for a bunch of stupid, authoritarian, armed thugs showing up to make everything 1000 times worse, possibly by murdering everyone around them just because they felt like it that day.
So, in essence, you believe in the Second Amendment, as you think that the government shouldn’t have a monopoly on force.
Edit to eliminate a double negative grammar error.
What an interesting hallucination you just had. I didn’t say any of those things.
Your statement implied that you don’t support the state having a sole monopoly on force, as law enforcement is representative of that. Hence you support the people having the right to use any and all force necessary, as demonstrated by your statement about calling your friends. The Second Amendment gives anyone the right to bear arms, therefore implying they have the right to use said force when necessary. Therefore, your implied support.
You are the one who is hallucinating. You’re playing your role very well.
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It is odd how prophetic the first Matrix movie was, despite being a part of the machinery itself. Btw, it’s worth reading “Simulacra and Simulation” as the first movie is a decent film representation of the premises in the book. Warning, it’s a heavy read philosophically. Free your mind.
