• CaptObvious@literature.cafe
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    11 months ago

    We’re going to have to disagree about allegiance being a behavioral motivator since means a strong feeling of support. That seems impossible to express in any way except motivated action.

    People who want something from you for less than it is worth will try to convince you that loyalty is something you owe them or that they have earned from you

    On this we totally agree. It’s bullshit.

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      10 months ago

      No, I agree that allegiance is a behavioral motivator, but I think it is distinct from loyalty and that people tend to conflate the concepts (similar to how people sometimes conflate or confuse infer/imply and borrow/lend).

      Loyalty, a behavior, can be observed; allegiance, a commitment (maybe supported by emotion, maybe not), cannot.

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        10 months ago

        Allegiance and loyalty are synonyms. Both are nouns. They are defined in terms of each other:

        loyalty
        Word forms: plural loyalties
        uncountable noun
        Loyalty is the quality of staying firm in your friendship or support for someone or something.
        I have sworn an oath of loyalty to the monarchy. [+ to]
        This is seen as a reward for the army’s loyalty during a barracks revolt earlier this month.

        Synonyms: faithfulness, commitment, devotion, allegiance

        allegiance
        Word forms: plural allegiances
        variable noun
        Your allegiance is your support for and loyalty to a particular group, person, or belief.
        My allegiance to Kendall and his company ran deep. [+ to]
        …a community driven by strong ties and allegiances.

        Synonyms: loyalty, duty, obligation, devotion

        --Collins COBUILD Advanced Learner’s Dictionary. Copyright © HarperCollins Publishers