• Sordid@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    You could say the same about Christianity. “Life sucks, but you can be happy if you think about the fact that the suffering is temporary.”

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      11 months ago

      Absolutely not. Christianity is “Life sucks and will always suck unless you submit to what we say and only what we say, otherwise you suffer forever”

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        11 months ago

        Christianity is “Life sucks and will always suck unless you submit to what we say and only what we say, otherwise you suffer forever”

        And Buddhism doesn’t say that? The only difference is that Christianity adds “in hell” at the end of that sentence, Buddhism adds “in the cycle of death and rebirth”.

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          Buddhists have near hells. Basically the same idea except it isn’t eternity. There is debate about this but the number I have heard is 13 different hells.

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            11 months ago

            Of course. Because otherwise rich people living a life of leisure might think life isn’t so bad after all and they wouldn’t mind reincarnating to live it again.

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              Meh I am neither and would take reincarnation if it was offered. Get to be a baby again, giant boob in your face whenever you are upset at anything. Doesn’t seem so bad to me.

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        11 months ago

        As opposed to Buddhism which constantly tells people that life sucks and will always suck unless you follow the Buddha (founder), the Dharma(Gospel), and the Sanghu (church).

        Very different

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      It’s more of “life sucks because the all knowing, all powerful, all loving deity is not so secretly a sadist who is constantly testing you to see if you’re good enough”

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        11 months ago

        True, but whether or nor the suffering is caused by a personal god or by impersonal cosmic forces doesn’t really make any practical difference. Both religions claim, without any basis in fact, that the suffering is eternal and that they are the only way out.

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          Who says that they don’t have a god who causes suffering? Ever heard of Maru? He is a godlike being, with red skin, and horns. He tempts people into sin and stops their salvation. According to their stories the Buddha during his time in the wilderness got tempted by him 3x and defeated him by argument. This story was recorded in the 6th century BCE

          That feeling you have of the floor dropping out from under you is a normal reaction. Don’t be alarmed.

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            Eh… that depends on which particular sect you’re talking about. Some lean more heavily in to the supernatural than others.

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              As I asked before. Name 2 sects that do not have supernatural elements. Also you know that their holy writings do not back you up. Maru was not an allegory for them.

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                You may have asked that, but not of me. More to the point, I didn’t say anything about sects with no supernatural elements, so I’m not sure why you’re asking me to name examples of those. I said some lean more heavily into the supernatural than others. This conversation will go a lot more smoothly if you respond to what I’m actually saying instead of what you imagine I’m saying or what other people in other conversations you’re participating in are saying.