See! You’re not THAT poor. Just give it another few decades!

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    This is" true" for a (tiny) subset of the Australian population. I know that I straight up sacrificed my 20s to an engineering degree and fifo job and now, at 35 I have comparable material wealth to my dad when he was my age (who was a sheet metal worker in a major city). But even still, the tiny population who did what I did will never get another run at what should’ve been the best 15 years of their life.

    I’m unconvinced that my decision was better than the ones my (much poorer) friends who now have families made…

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    Thankfully as we’re all breaking into our 40s, we have finally reached a point our society expected of us by 25. All it took was the slow deaths of our families.

    But our kids are gonna be fucked! Thanks boomer for telling us that should make us feel better like it apparently did your generation.

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      Big reason I’m not having kids. Oh I’m only starting to feel relatively stable in my late 30s?! Why would I ruin that now, kids cost well over 800k, I can’t afford my house and one kid, let alone 2

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    First millennials were mocked for wanting part of The American Dream; now Millennials are being mocked for a few of them having a bit of it from the “COVID+inheritance” effect.

    The WSJ should be ripped asunder. It is an insult to birds to line birdcages with it.

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    mocked at times for being perpetually behind in building wealth

    but that was you guys who did that. you know that, right? it’s important to me that you know that.

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      Trump is coming to power again, so the WSJ has to switch back to selling the idea that everything will be okay.

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      It was already happening. Plenty of people were insulting those complaining about the cost of living, saying things like “What do you mean? The economy is doing fine.” In Canada the finance minister called it a “vibecession”, implying it was all in our heads.

      All these people are talking about asset prices while we talk about the cost of living.

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      Maybe if we just go around shooting everyone whose better off that ourselves then one day we’ll all be equally poor and miserable.

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        Wasn’t Thompson living in a different house than his wife and on the way to a divorce when he died? That’s not better off, that’s just richer.

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    Article: https://archive.md/Gr6qG

    Basically: got to buy a house early as opposed to most of us ( probably with parents’ help), got lucky on the stock market (because he wasn’t spending everything on rent), and works as a CFO somewhere.

    Definitely not in everyone’s reach here.

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      I mean maybe.

      I went to school through 23rd grade and ran a lab at a university for about 7 years. Then I switched jobs and pastures in industry are much greener.

      I suspect there are a fair amount of us who spent too much time in school and also on donating our time instead of getting paid for it.

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      I bought my house in 2009 and I was really lucky because I wouldn’t have been able to afford one precrash. It was actually cheaper to have a mortgage on a house than rent in many 2 bedroom 800 sq. Ft. apartments in my area. Cheaper than some 1 bedrooms in certain areas around here.

      For a few years after 2009 interest rates and prices were low enough much more affordable than now.

      My situation then is not the situation most millennials find themselves in just a few short years after and certainly not now, especially since I’m an old ass millinial.

      I make 6 times what I did when I bought my house and my means is roughly the same plus a car payment basically. My house is worth much much more than what I mortgaged.

      A million back then could have given you a lot, lot more structure and a lot more land. Now it’ll get you around a 2700 sq. ft. house on an 4th of an acre in a neighborhood in my area. Less than an hour down the road you’ll get a shitbox in the hood.

      This article is just full of so much shit relative to the normal person. But then that’s not the target audience. It’s just there so Gen Xers and Boomers will continue to subscribe and just drives the “if millinial weren’t stupid and lazy they’d have the same opportunities as we did.” propaganda.

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          Then you maybe aren’t one? you’re born in the 90s which makes you heavily tail end.

          Edit. Sorry I guess you’re millennial out to approx 1996, but still, there are a lot of us born WAY before you. There were millennials in middle school before you were born. Don’t be shitty about it.

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      and their examples are absurd;

      brent royer got a 40% raise when he left one job for another, which is not a common occurence

      and andy holmes basically moved back home and got a $90,000 home and flipped it to be worth $300,000 while investing in the stock market.

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      But maybe that could happen to YOU, so don’t pay too much attention to how much you’re getting screwed, because you’ll totally be a CFO in just a few more years of work!

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        Hell, I might be a CFO now and I’ve failed to notice! Hold on, let me check… No… No, I’ve just managed to burn a microwave dinner again.

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        Yup we just need to travel back in time, attend a select private university, have parents who can give us a living space until we save up for a house, and get a job directly into the C-Suite off the networking from that private university. It could totally happen! We don’t need any workers, everyone can be in the boardroom!

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      Stop it! The avocado toast shit is so old, my wife’s mom repeated it like it was a clever joke two years ago

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          Guilty as charged. I buy $4 avocados in the winter because I’m rich as fuck.

          Not really. I buy them when they’re $1 or less, in season. I’ve never even made avocado toast for real. I cut them in half, score them, then squeeze lime juice on plus salt or Tajin. Scoop them with a spoon. So delicious.

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            Nice, that sounds delicious. I’m actually guilty of enjoying avocado toast every now and again. There is a “everything bagel” seasoning at Trader Joes that goes super well on top. The funny thing is I had no idea what avocado toast was or that it was a thing until boomers started bitching about it. Sounded good so I tried it lol

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              That everything bagel seasoning is the shit. Kinder’s is a brand I hadn’t seen until recently and their seasonings are awesome. Not full of sugar which I hate. They’re a bit pricy but they come in big-ass bottles

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    The entire article is more than mildly infuriating. They’re interviewing the well connected and winners of the economic lottery. Furthermore there’s no mention at all of what that period of depressed earnings does to long term financial gains. With bias like this I don’t even trust their numbers for things like adults reporting they’re doing okay. Another day, another bullshit piece of economic propaganda.

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    @scrubbles Let me correct this one for them:

    Millennials — long mocked for being locked out of the housing market and postponing major life decisions due to their financial position — are finally starting to inherit wealth.

    Well, as long as they’re middle class.

    Many princes and princesses of the top 10% already had parents willing to be guarantors on mortgages, or just outright give precious a trust fund.

    And working class millennials are already screwed, and will be for the rest of their lives.

    But for 40-something middle-class Millennials, their 70-something Boomer parents kicking the bucket is providing an unexpected financial windfall.

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      I know everyone thinks they are middle class, but If your parents are giving you a trust fund you are probably pretty solidly in the upper class, not middle.

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        @jrs100000 You’ll note I said “princes and princesses of the top 10%”. As in top 10% of households by income.

        Those Millennials are set.

        The middle class Millennials are now starting to inherit property.

        And the working class Millennials? Screwed.

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      My parents have been very clear, there is no inheritance. I love them but when we were young adults they bought into the idea that getting college degrees would set us up for life and they decided to coast on their early retirement instead of buying property and getting real assets to hand down.

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        Are you American? If so, know your rights. Most debt cannot be passed down to surviving children. If the amount of debt exceeds how much their estate is worth, the lenders are not entitled to you paying them. They will try to make you pay, don’t do it! Do not give them even one penny or agree to anything, or you will have then “assumed” the debt and now it is yours.

        The exceptions are loans where your name is on them (joint or cosigned iirc) or medical debt in certain states with filial responsibility laws.

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        With ya there.

        after 30 years I thought the house was paid off. Nope. Now I’m in 5 way inheritance battle over scraps waiting to happen.

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    Ok, lemmy crybabies. Me and my millennial friends all graduated from a university in Europe. None of us were born rich, but we’re all well-off now. By now everyone lives in different country, works in a different field, but literally everyone can afford a mortgage, a car, a ski trip, and maybe for their partner not to work for a few years if kids would be born.

    Yet, imagine that, nobody really planned for their career to be lucrative. People just did what they thought was interesting and did it well. Only one dude was after money. He went into banking and now probably makes close to a mil annually.

    I reiterate. All that was necessary for a financial success was to find an interesting job and do it with passion. To me this sounds like a communist dream.

    And yet lemmy keeps telling me every day that it could only be possible if all of us were born rich, or sucked to corpos or whatever. You’re just a bunch of sore losers, lemmy.

    Enjoy your holidays and think about your life choices.

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      Wow, it’s amazing g that you and your friends are a globally representative sample of millenials, despite all going to the same university. I wonder what would happen if different people have different life circumstances? Well, good thing we don’t need to worry about that since you and your friends are doing okay.

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        I choose to believe they are a troll, because I still at times need to convince myself someone isn’t actually that maliciously ignorant.

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      Also European here. And just to bring some more up to date examples.

      My colleague bought a nice big flat some 5 odd years ago. If he wanted to buy the exact same thing today, he literally wouldn’t be able to afford it, not even with much worse terms. For the same money he’d need to move to some small dinky house in the countryside.

      My aunt bought a flat 7 years ago for almost 1.5 million CZK, and then 2 years later one for 2 mil. Today, they’re both worth at least 10 each.

      Income has not grown like that in the past decade. These are arguably successful people that literally wouldn’t be able to recreate their success today, only a few years later. Shit’s going down hill and it’s going down hill fast.

      So for me and my GF, buying a house is a pipe dream. We just about manage renting our current flat, which is already cheap, we both earn comfortably above average and she even works overtime often enough. Buying a house or having a child are literally crippling decisions.

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      How much are you paid to troll? Just curious. Sounds like an interesting job I could do with passion.

      Or do you just say dumb shit for your own sexual gratification?