• absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz
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    3 days ago

    The communism / capitalism debate is an interesting one. Each system has its advantages, and I am a strong believer in a strong compromise between the two extremes.

    I don’t think that workplaces should be collectivized as a default. I also think that strong regulation and “big” government is a positive thing. The government should set the rules, for the benefit of all, but the game should be open to all players.

    I am also a very strong believer that there are some activities that are far too important to leave up to the market.

    • Health care
    • Education
    • Infrastructure
      • Water
      • Waste
      • Roading
      • Public transport
      • Communications
    • Social welfare

    For everything else, let the market decide. Collective ownership of cafes and hardware stores isn’t really something that needs to happen. But I would also be happy if a collectively owned cafe opened up nearby, I would give them the same weight as all other cafes (how good is your coffee).

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      3 days ago

      I feel you and I would agree on most issues. I would urge you to be skeptical of capitalism and the profit incentive and how it can cause harm even small ventures like cafes.

      To me, the ultimate problem that capitalism and the wealth concentration that it allows presents is the ability of the individuals with this concentrated wealth to use it either legally or illegally to bend the state to their will. In the states we are all too familiar with this with lobbying. Once this happens, democracy is undermined and oligarchy begins in my opinion.

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        3 days ago

        Looking from the outside, what the US has lacked is the “strong regulation” part.

        In my opinion the US is way too far on the capitalist side of the slider, you are not at “pure capitalism” yet. But sometimes it doesn’t seem like you have far to go.

        Private prisons are just a ridiculous, over reach of profit making into what is at its core a social problem that requires social solutions.

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          2 days ago

          I can totally get that perspective. From here looking at countries in Europe move in our direction makes me think that allowing a little bit of the capitalist corruption in makes your system susceptible to slowly being consumed(deregulated and welfare state gutted).

          I’m not too familiar with New Zealand politics but I’m sure they’re a hell of a lot better than ours lol.

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            2 days ago

            It has gotten worse since trump showed that the truth is optional for politics.

            But yes, still better.