• DancingBear@midwest.social
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    21 hours ago

    Trump won every swing state. He lost my state and all of my states electoral college delegates are going to Harris. I could have voted for Mickey Mouse and this fact would not be different.

    Other voters in swing states had real issues with the economy, crime, and less so the genocide in Israel.

    Kamala unfortunately pivoted to the right and embraced republicans and corporate CEO’s. Why vote for republican light (Kamala) when you can just vote republican (Trump)? I assume this is what people were thinking.

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      1 hour ago

      Other voters in swing states had real issues with the economy, crime

      In other words, they were lied to and bought it hook, line, and sinker.

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        59 minutes ago

        These voters had issues and concerns.

        Trump addressed them.

        Kamala and the DNC shamed them and only said it would be worse under Trump.

        Voters are worried about the economy. It was the number one issue, especially in swing states.

        Trump had a news conference and talked about how expensive beans are.

        Kamala had a news conference where she talked about how the economy was already better, while embracing Dick Cheney and 80 corporate CEOs.

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          Right. We are facing very complex problems that have no simple answers.

          People want a simple answer, and that’s what Trump gave them. Truth is irrelevant.

          The problem is that people on the left tend to actually have ethics and morals.

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      20 hours ago

      I assume this is what people were thinking.

      I’m not sure those people exist. Lemmy seems to think they do but the electorate doesn’t reflect that at all and unless they’re ready to arm themselves and fight (and they’re not, as much as they like to talk about it online) they may as well not exist.

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        Not sure what you are responding to. Your response is kind of vague. Voters are saying they voted on the economy and immigration among other issues. Trump was speaking to these issues while Kamala was not.

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          3 hours ago

          Other voters in swing states had real issues with

          I’m not sure those voters exist. Lemmy thinks that they do but i don’t see any evidence that they’re real people.

          At any rate there’s little difference between not-voting and not-existing in the grand scheme so now we get to see what happens when an unashamed fascist wins and surrounds himself with yes men.

          Unless those principled non-voters are ready to arm themselves and actually agitate, they might as well not exist and we can proceed accordingly.

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            I still don’t understand your point.

            All you’re doing is continuing to shame voters who didn’t vote for your candidate, even after these voters told your candidate what their priorities were.

            The only substantial thing Kamala ran on was that she wasn’t Trump. Outside of not being Trump she is a shell of a human being who has no real values and will always change her views based on the campaign contributions she receives. Voters saw through her fake personality.

            Continuing to try and shame voters for not supporting your candidate isn’t going to accomplish anything, much in the same way Obama and Hillary trying to shame voters accomplished little as well.

            The DNC can’t even beat a buffoon like Trump because they are so bought and paid for by corporate and dark money PACs.

            Maybe try stop trying to blame voters and focus your energies in that direction.

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              2 hours ago

              I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said except.

              Continuing to try and shame voters for not supporting your candidate isn’t going to accomplish anything

              Who was MY candidate? I had to vote for the same milquetoast dem every other functional adult did. I weighed the options and made a decision. If some hypothetical non-voters think they have a better solution let’s see it, they should be ashamed. Sitting in basements screeching online doesn’t accomplish anything so let’s fucking go.

              I’m just waiting for the revolution to start, that’s what we all want right?

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                1 hour ago

                Shaming voters won’t accomplish anything.

                Fundamentally you are shaming voters for bad decisions that your candidate made.

                The culpability for losing falls completely on Harris and the DNC, not on anyone else.

                Shaming people for not voting for your candidate will push people away rather than recruit more voters to your side.

                If you’d rather scream and shout from your soap box shaming voters who are traditionally on your side, feel free. Just know that you will be doing more actual harm for your cause than even any of the non voters did.