Get the “ but we’re liberals 🤓” joke out now.

Obviously we’re very far left and vocal about being anti establishment, some things I’ve seen posted here, whilst I won’t admit I agree with :) are pretty sus from a feds perspective. If the site was raided and if people were subject to arrests, what do you think they would be charged with? We’re obviously on a list of course but the same can be said about all people tbh so I don’t really care about that, but since the political sphere in the US is becoming more mask off fash from both parties especially the drump comment about “enemy within” what do you think the future is? Also what crime is committed exactly? Might be a weird example but places like Georgia are racially targeting rappers by using their lyrics as evidence that they have committed crimes, couldn’t something similar happen here on this space? Does anyone have any examples of what the crime committed would be exactly or does it fall under freeze-peach.

I think it’s already been alarming for years but even more so with the multitude of arrests of people in support of Palestine including students who were just present at protests. I’ve seen people on here say we have to be organized etc in order for feds to take an initiative, but who knows exactly.

I just wanna know what crime and what jail I’ll be sent to if it all comes to that

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    Meh, Feds going after this site but not 4ch?

    I guess depending on which country you live maybe if you post here your intentions to give lots of kisses and hugs to your local president or something and then actualy go and do it, perhaps that sort of attempt could lead to an FBI intervention. Otherwise I seriously doubt anyone cares.

    Someone should check on Mr Roger’s and see if he is still keeping track of this website for his “research”(the guy with the only result for HB on Google scholar)

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    As it stands, nothing on Hexbear breaches the letter of the law in western countries.

    But, the reality is that they can arbitrarily arrest those they want to, and the consequent charge and punishment will be equally arbitrary and dependent on what made “push come to shove”. Any previous examples will be equally arbitrarily charged and sentenced. So the only realistic answer is:

    • Crime you’ll be charged with: Anything
    • Punishment: Anything between no punishment and death.
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    The real answer is, whatever they want to…

    If they can argue you’ve crossed the line, they’ll get you on some sort of domestic terrorism charge.

    If they can’t, they’ll get you for drugs or another crime, and planting evidence isn’t above them if they need to.

    Maybe they’d even fear for their life during those arrests or you just become another “street crime” statistic and they don’t need to get officially involved.

    They could also black van you if they can get away with it, at which point they don’t even need to pretend anything.

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    All kinds of conspiracy charges, terroristic threats, shit like that. I think they just throw everything they can possibly think of at the wall to see what sticks.

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    “National Security” or “Preventing Terrorism” would be my guess. It’s what they do in so called “authoritarian” countries. US would also do the same if it sees its state power under threat or if a certain leader come into power.

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    Delinquency of minors, terroristic threatening, supporting terrorist States, conspiracy to riot (any posts detailing what to do during protests, sit-ins, building occupations), being/supporting communists/communism (pretty sure there’s still laws all over the books from the red scare days that could be used) just off the top of my head.

    Doubt most of the charges would stick but that won’t matter as anybody who gets scooped up is likely to be broke enough that having all your computer gear (cell phones, router, computer, laptop, tablets) disappeared, missing enough days of work to be fired, expected to pay whatever “fees and penalties” can be thought of, flagged in some background check databases as a “person of interest” or something can go a long way in making life unpleasant without being thrown in the hoosegow.

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      You can beat the rap but you can’t beat the ride.

      I think they’ve been using this as a tactic for the last decade or so. It doesn’t matter if they get convictions if they can ruin your life with pre-trial detention, probation, forcing you to attend hearings far from home, character assassination, subpoenas, stealing everything you own and holding it as “evidence”. They don’t need to convict you to break you.

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    Our made up internets number will be tared by the Committee for un-Amerikkkan Activities, Who will falsely accuse us of being Russian / Chinese / Iranian [insert who isn’t worshiping amerikkka today] haxors, before promptly being proven wrong.

    pooh-wtf They will send your ISP a letter, expressing their displeasure. Who will then send you a letter expressing their displeasure of recieving a letter of displeasure.

    hahaha Of which we will have a hearty laugh - and toss in the trash after posting our pleasure of their itterative letter of displeasure reflecting how much of a thorn we are to Wall Street’s puppets.

    They would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for you meddling bears. sicko-hexbear-crowd