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    And besides, you’re the one imploring them to just vote without any regard to policy, so what exactly is “getting involved”?

    No, I’m saying that at this point in time that the next POTUS is either going to be Harris or Trump. Which of those two do you want it to be? Vote accordingly.

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      That’s the same thing.

      Your claim is that, come election time, we should always vote for the least worst party which has a chance of getting in. That’s always the Democrats and always will be if we follow your system.

      So the corollary of your system is that one party runs America for ever.

      So why bother with elections at all?

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        You can deny reality all you want, but Harris or Trump is going to be the next POTUS. Which one do you want it to be?

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          I want it to be whichever results from us attempting to preserve democracy.

          Our nation has taken far, far bigger risks than 4 years of Trump to preserve democracy.

          Determining something to be an acceptable risk is not the same as wanting it. Casualties are an acceptable risk of a just war. No one says people want soldiers to die.

          I’m prepared to risk a Trump presidency to preserve some semblance of democracy and make it clear that genocide is never an acceptable option. That doesn’t mean I want a Trump presidency any more than being prepared to risk soldier’s lives during war means you want soldiers to die.

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            I’m prepared to risk a Trump presidency

            This is beyond the pale. You must have checked off on all of your entitlements before you came to this realization. Because what you’re doing by “risking” a Trump presidency is potentially going to hurt a lot of people. Get over yourself and pay attention to what’s going here.

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            I’m prepared to risk a Trump presidency

            You’re not taking a risk. You are promoting a Trump presidency. If you can’t or won’t accept reality then there is no need to continue this conversation.