Oh hey, also the same thing with environmental issues

  • davidagain@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I never said you shouldn’t do anything else, I only disagreed with you when you suggested that giving them money wouldn’t help and that somehow giving homeless people money would be a driver for inflation, but homeless people eating isn’t a driver for inflation.

    • Giving destitute people money does help. It helps a lot.
    • You can take people to a shrink and a physiotherapist and a doctor as much as you like, but if they don’t have food and shelter it’s going to do jack shit for their mental health, their physical health and their disease resistance.

    Guess what’s cheaper than hiring shrinks and physios and medics? Giving homeless people enough money to get food and shelter. Guess what doesn’t help homeless people solve their problems? Keeping them on the street trying to scrape together enough cash each day to get into shelter for the night.

    • So yeah, once you’ve given them enough money to let them get themselves back into stable accommodation with enough food to eat they have the time to go looking for employment, so then you support them with that. That’s when you can supply training, but for goodness sake don’t take a homeless person to your employment training before giving them an address.
    • And yeah, once you’ve given them enough money to allow them to get themselves back into stable accommodation with enough food to eat and some independent employment, sure, enrol them in medicare.
    • And yeah, once you’ve given them enough money to allow them to get themselves back into stable accommodation with enough food to eat and some independent employment, and you enrolled them in medicare and they’re having a normal life, guess whose mental health improved A LOT in six months?
    • So sure, yeah, get them a shrink once they have a life, but for goodness’ sake, what kind of an idiot goes to a rough sleeper and says “if we can talk through some of the issues you have with your dad, I’m sure it’ll seem a bit less cold at night here.”?!

    And can you please permanently get lost with the thinking that says that we NEED abject poverty and starving people and rough sleepers to keep prices low?! Seriously, shut up. It’s not working. It never worked. The USA has some insane levels of inequality and it didn’t keep prices low in the USA. It just doesn’t. False. Crazy talk. Stop it. Wrong. No. Doesn’t help. Never helped. The poorest people having money was NEVER the cause of inflation. Nope, it isn’t, it won’t be. Please don’t come back with that shit again. Stop saying it because it’s really very stupid indeed.