Imagine a world without organised religion, where it doesn’t affect people’s lives, but atheism still exists. What purpose would atheism fill in this scenario?

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Atheism is the lack of a belief. The lack of believing in gods serves as much purpose as the lack of believing in goblins.

    What purpose does the lack of believing in goblins serve?

    • 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      4 months ago

      What purpose does the lack of believing in goblins serve?

      Well, personally, my lack of believing in goblins serves my sense of reality. I am extremely sure goblins are made up, so my lack of belief serves my understanding of consistency and coherence of the world. Were goblins real, we likely could interact with them, if I understood them correctly.

      IIRC, most religions hold that one cannot interact with their deities directly - so even if theism had just a grain of truth, its truth would be so irrelevant and far from people’s lives (just another level of hierarchy) that I don’t understand how its belief or disbelief affects one’s sense of reality.

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        4 months ago

        That makes no sense. You wouldn’t even know goblins existed if someone hadn’t told you stories about goblins.

        Are you so easily swayed that your outlook on reality would have been altered just knowing about the existence of goblins in stories?

        • 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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          4 months ago

          Yes, my sense of reality would be altered if one could just write magical beings into interactable existence.

          • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            Isn’t that what religion is?

            I mean, really. You dismiss the existence of goblins because they’re myths, but not of an all-powerful, all-knowing god… which is also just a myth?

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            Not something that I suggested.

            You claimed that merely knowing that goblins are a concept would alter your perception of reality. That’s ludicrous. I do not believe your perception of reality was altered when you learned that goblins are a concept unless you uncritically believed they existed, in which case, you need to work on your critical thinking skills.

            But you seem to be stuck on ‘goblins.’ So let’s change it while still using the same basic metaphor:

            The lack of believing in gods serves as much purpose as the lack of believing in snxxzxz.

            What purpose does the lack of believing in snxxzxz serve?

            • 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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              4 months ago

              snxxzxz or any other gibberish isn’t yet associated with meaning. Once some gibberish would get meaning AND become embodied (ie observable existence), yes my sense of reality would be altered. Are you sure this is a critical thinking failure?

              Are you saying atheism is a form of disassociation or gibberish-making of theist beliefs? If yes, I would consider that tool a purpose/function of atheism.

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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                4 months ago

                Why do you think the concept of a god automatically has meaning beyond a fiction?

                That is all the meaning it has ever held for me.

                Not believing in gods is the default. You must be taught about them first and convinced.

      • Hobbes@startrek.website
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        4 months ago

        Well, personally, my lack of believing in goblins serves my sense of reality. I am extremely sure goblins are made up, so my lack of belief serves my understanding of consistency and coherence of the world.

        You’re so close to getting it!