The end result is going to be basically the same regardless. Plenty of people (such as myself) who believe in the huge potential of AI to give creative power to regular people will volunteer our voices. Giving that creative power to everyone is worth far more, in my opinion, than gatekeeping the creation of art.
Unless they’re planning on making it illegal for a computer to imitate any human voice, I don’t see where making a law against using a voice without consent would make a big substantive difference. Just re-voice the existing lines in Skyrim with new voices to maintain consistency and you’re good (there’s a Serana mod that already does this, for instance).
If you’re using new voices then congrats. That’s not the issue. The issue is people using existing voices to create audio the person didn’t consent to record. You gave an example of it being done right. Not to mention I’m pretty sure the Serena dialogue isn’t ai generated so it’s not even close to relevant in actuality.
But since you seem to love the potential of AI would you be willing to send me an audio file of you pronouncing every possible phonetic sound the human mouth can make? I promise there won’t be audio of you talking about eating babies afterward because as you say, there’s no practical reason to require consent for these things. No one could possibly abuse technology to hurt other people. It’s never happened in history.
AI is indeed a powerful tool that can be used to let more people explore their creativity. Your assumption that I felt otherwise is because you’re on the opposite end of the spectrum. So self assured of it’s value that you’re blind to real shortcomings and abusable points.
I would describe my position more like: AI, like any new technology, is neutral. It’s usable for good and for bad. Thus it’s important to watch for ethical pitfalls that we may not have had to consider before due to the drastic way the new technology impacts society.
But since you seem to love the potential of AI would you be willing to send me an audio file of you pronouncing every possible phonetic sound the human mouth can make?
In theory, absolutely.
In practice, I’m not going to go through that much work just to make a point for a single fediverse comment. I’ll be honest, though – I’m not particularly worried about somebody using my voice to do a bad (or do a racism or whatever). It may happen, and I can live with it; I think the benefits far outweigh the cost, and in my experience, far more people use those sorts of things to do awesome stuff than to be shitty. Earlier today I was considering trying to put together an Open Voice project and collect volunteers to do exactly what you said.
I’ve already released open source code over the years; people could potentially use that to do things I don’t agree with as well, but frankly, as someone who has had work out in the wild available for use by everyone, the panic is vastly overblown.
Your assumption that I felt otherwise is because you’re on the opposite end of the spectrum. So self assured of it’s value that you’re blind to real shortcomings and abusable points.
Just because I feel that the potential benefits far outweigh the costs (as well as the draconian technical restrictions that would be required in order to prevent people from expressing themselves in a bad way), it doesn’t follow that I’m somehow blind to the real shortcomings and abusable points of AI. I would appreciate if you not make silly strawman assumptions about whether I’ve given something due consideration just because you don’t like my conclusions.
If you have a solution that wouldn’t absolutely kill it (or put a horribly filtered version in the hands of a few massive corporations who charge the rest of us for the privilege of using it while using it themselves however they want), I’m all ears.
The end result is going to be basically the same regardless. Plenty of people (such as myself) who believe in the huge potential of AI to give creative power to regular people will volunteer our voices. Giving that creative power to everyone is worth far more, in my opinion, than gatekeeping the creation of art.
Unless they’re planning on making it illegal for a computer to imitate any human voice, I don’t see where making a law against using a voice without consent would make a big substantive difference. Just re-voice the existing lines in Skyrim with new voices to maintain consistency and you’re good (there’s a Serana mod that already does this, for instance).
If you’re using new voices then congrats. That’s not the issue. The issue is people using existing voices to create audio the person didn’t consent to record. You gave an example of it being done right. Not to mention I’m pretty sure the Serena dialogue isn’t ai generated so it’s not even close to relevant in actuality.
But since you seem to love the potential of AI would you be willing to send me an audio file of you pronouncing every possible phonetic sound the human mouth can make? I promise there won’t be audio of you talking about eating babies afterward because as you say, there’s no practical reason to require consent for these things. No one could possibly abuse technology to hurt other people. It’s never happened in history.
AI is indeed a powerful tool that can be used to let more people explore their creativity. Your assumption that I felt otherwise is because you’re on the opposite end of the spectrum. So self assured of it’s value that you’re blind to real shortcomings and abusable points.
I would describe my position more like: AI, like any new technology, is neutral. It’s usable for good and for bad. Thus it’s important to watch for ethical pitfalls that we may not have had to consider before due to the drastic way the new technology impacts society.
In theory, absolutely.
In practice, I’m not going to go through that much work just to make a point for a single fediverse comment. I’ll be honest, though – I’m not particularly worried about somebody using my voice to do a bad (or do a racism or whatever). It may happen, and I can live with it; I think the benefits far outweigh the cost, and in my experience, far more people use those sorts of things to do awesome stuff than to be shitty. Earlier today I was considering trying to put together an Open Voice project and collect volunteers to do exactly what you said.
I’ve already released open source code over the years; people could potentially use that to do things I don’t agree with as well, but frankly, as someone who has had work out in the wild available for use by everyone, the panic is vastly overblown.
Just because I feel that the potential benefits far outweigh the costs (as well as the draconian technical restrictions that would be required in order to prevent people from expressing themselves in a bad way), it doesn’t follow that I’m somehow blind to the real shortcomings and abusable points of AI. I would appreciate if you not make silly strawman assumptions about whether I’ve given something due consideration just because you don’t like my conclusions.
If you have a solution that wouldn’t absolutely kill it (or put a horribly filtered version in the hands of a few massive corporations who charge the rest of us for the privilege of using it while using it themselves however they want), I’m all ears.