• Manmoth@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    While not pacifistic Christianity is non-violent. If someone claims to be a Christian and beats up a homosexual for “no reason” then they are sinning. This, also, is completely irrelevant to the argument I was making.

    Everyone tries to enforce their views. You, I assume, want to enforce your world view of radical tolerance for [issue here] at the expense of someone elses ability to criticize it. Your neighbor might want to define hate speech as anything that violates Sharia law.

    What we have now (which is no restriction on hate speech) is actually the best policy.

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      3 months ago

      You, I assume, want to enforce your world view of radical tolerance for [issue here] at the expense of someone elses ability to criticize it

      If that’s how you want to define the opinion that people shouldn’t be thrown in jail for providing abortions or gender affirming care, or that Tucker Carlson shouldn’t be allowed to go on TV and tell his followers that all drag queens are pedophiles, then so be it.

      Sin is whatever. You can believe that all gays are going to go to turbo-hell, you can tell all your facebook friends, you can say you feel pity for us, I don’t care. As long as I’m allowed to live my life however I want, and you don’t come into my face and tell me not to, we’re good. But your right to swing your arms stops at my face. As soon as you start codifying your opinions into law, or advocating for violence against people who hold different beliefs than you live their lives in a way contrary to your religion (which strangely only seems to come from people who self-identify as being on the right), we’re gonna have a problem.

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        3 months ago

        This is (mostly) a different point and I’m not going to engage with it. Suffice it to say that hate speech isn’t a slippery slope it’s the bottom of the mountain. If such a policy is ever enacted it will be abused and used to persecute people.

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          3 months ago

          I agree that censorship is evil. I disagree that people being banned from internet forums because of opinions they hold is censorship.

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            3 months ago

            You’re just redefining terms. It’s the same thing. If Twitter or Lemmy wants to block those things that’s fine. I would agree that social networks should try to maintain some sense of decency on their platforms. The government shouldn’t be involved though.