• _number8_@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    cynically i feel the DNC might just dig in their heels and hope people memory hole this. because jesus fuck i sure want to, that was horrifying

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      I only got to see the closing statements. Biden looked worn down. Unconfident. Soft spoken. I could barely understand what he was saying and I had to turn on closed captioning.

      Then Trump starts talking…and it’s all bullshit, but God if he doesn’t sound good spewing it.

      America is fucked. The world is fucked. We’re all gonna die. Buckle in.

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        I listened to about half an hour, as long as I could bear in any case. Your description fits all of what I saw, and probably the whole thing.

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      At this point what I think is happening is Joe has one of those old age bugs except this one specifically makes the brain to mouth communication issues that come with a stutter a lot worse.

      Because communication seems to always be this guy’s biggest stumbling block, if this were just a report card comparison there wouldn’t be a race, he’s obviously still a competent guy as old as he is, the problem is that something’s going on that makes it way harder for him to adequately communicate that whenever he needs to.

      That’s really the only way I can self reason why he then proceeded to be completely fine in the much lower pressure environment of his after debate rally.

      Edit: report card not credit card, although personally I’m willing to bet that Joe’s credit score is way better than Donny’s too

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        I don’t even need Biden to be competent. Just surround himself with a competent cabinet. Which he has, and is why we’ve gotten so many wins and why Trump did so horribly in his first term.

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        Yeah, good thing all that matters for a president is the ability to have good ideas, and there is no need to be able to convey these ideas to other humans.

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          Speaking is not the only means of communication, and I’d be surprised to find out that Biden doesn’t rely on email and memo communication behind closed doors to make his job easier.

          Thinking about it more I’d have probably still have been surprised at most points in his career. Not slipping back into stutter is something that requires a lot more focus than a politician really gets to commit to it at all times. Could be that Joe became mr. compromise because helping people get along lowers the amount of times he has to leave a conversation to reset his voice and get his focus back.

          Having recently been committed to bedrest I know what it’s like to get creative with your personal work environment in order to compensate for what you’re not able to do right now.

          It’s embarrassing even when everyone around you is as supportive and non judgemental as they can be, for a president, I could see the history books recording this as an echo of Roosevelt’s efforts to hide just how far his polio had actually progressed from the press. Even if not for ableist questioning of his legitimacy and ability to do the job, there’s still the personal embarrassment of having everyone know your chronic medical struggles and even picturing what your worst days must be like.

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      People will memory hole it IF Biden does better in the future. The last thing that happened is always the only thing that matters in US elections.

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      They’ll tell us that Joe did great, and that anyone thinking otherwise is being subliminally influenced by Russian propaganda.

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        He had a decent performance. I understand more about his policies and called trump a felon and a fat loser. That’s what I wanted out of it. Trump literally could not answer half of the questions because he was still rambling about the previous question.

        Biden had a hoarse throat from a cold and a bit of a stutter but he turned on a dime when he was asked different questions. Both dudes are old af. The choice is: do you want senile grandpa who can’t answer the question or the guy who has a soft voice?

        Biden’s clearly still with it but slower, and trump is clearly still nuts, possibly moreso. I choose Biden because he’s the only one who occasionally says things that make sense.

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          could you reference one better understanding of a policy you got out of it? Looking at it from the lens of undecided/independent voters, I didn’t get any information out of it but an upcoming golf game.