• microbe
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    3 days ago

    America had it’s chance in 2016, and then again in 2024. They decided by majority vote that this was the way they wanted to go. Not electing thus fuckhead in a legitimate and entirely democratic election, twice, would have been the easiest thing in the world to accomplish. Bitching about it now is pointless. This is what they wanted, no, this is what they demanded.

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      2 days ago

      Trump is a symptom, not the cause, and moreover the idea that the USian citizenry has any actual input in which candidates are fronted for elections is also wrong. It’s a two-party duopoly, both controlled by Capital.

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        Sure but you can derive some very dooming judgement from they way they wield that apparent control they were granted.

        The duopoli machination is a machination if they get pushed toward the lesser evil and still get fucked. If they pick the obvious evil, does it matter how fake is the alternative?

        • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          The US doesn’t have mandatory voting, and voting is winner-take-all at a state level, meaning votes outside swing states do not matter. Further, both candidates are pre-selected by the bourgeoisie, it isn’t about lesser-evilism, it’s theatrics to obfuscate how little power the Working Class actually has.

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          if they get pushed toward the lesser evil and still get fucked.

          Biden also increased tariffs on China. You can point to pretty much any policy that Trump is doing/planning on doing and you will find one of 4 outcomes

          1. Biden’s admin started the discussion
          2. Biden’s admin started the implementation
          3. Trump’s admin started it in his first term, then Biden’s admin did little to nothing to reverse course
          4. Trump’s admin started it in the first term, then Biden’s admin went further

          The case of tariffs is option 4.

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      3 days ago

      The US industry was doomed way before 2024. The US fighting back against inevitable Chinese economic hegemony was a matter of time, Trump started it in 2016 but Biden maintained many of the policies and furthered some other scaremongering (Uyghur “genocide”, weather balloons, Taiwan, etc).

      I gotta say that I didn’t expect the US to shoot itself in the foot this much though, the Trump administration tariffs are WILD

    • CDommunist [she/her, love/loves]@hexbear.net
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      2 days ago

      Since were already out here being libs…

      They decided by majority vote that this was the way they wanted to go

      Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 and only got 49.8% in 2024. Even in the 2016 GOP primary his vote count was 44%. He’s never had a majority of any vote