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    1 year ago

    I don’t know why we’d be surprised. If you outsource everything to China eventually that will be so much money they get to pick payment methods.

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      1 year ago

      It is because the West sanctions and freezing the money of Russia triggered fears of the same in the Global South, so dedollarisation is happening. Countries are looking for alternatives to not fall in the weaponisation of the dollar, there was a recent article by a former CIA advisor talking about this I will try to link it.

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        1 year ago

        “Countries” - Russia, China, India

        Yes they’re worried about weaponization of the dollar, and they should be, but they aren’t going to succeed long term trying to avoid it.

        Russia is just straight fucked at this point. It’s economy hasn’t been great for ages, and this war is just going to leave them living as an amputee afterwards. It’s the same size as a Canada economically at this point…

        China is on the edge of a major economic decline. In the last couple of years the last of their population boom just entered the workforce, and now there are significantly more people aging out of the workforce than joining it (and it will be that way for at least 20 years even if they managed to turn their birth rates around today. The results of their one-child policy coming home to roost. They’re trying to strike while their iron is hot right now. This is all on top of the fact that their large population is becoming less and less relevant economically due to technology.

        India is simply too far behind, it’s barely 1.5x the GDP of Canada at only 3 trillion, despite having 35 times the population.

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        1 year ago

        The global south has been dealing with the downside of dollar hegemony for decades. It’s not like people suddenly got afraid due to recent sanctions. This ball has been rolling for decades.

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          I agree, but that certainly accelerated it, one thing is to sanction a small island or third world country and another one is to sanction a country like Russia, the message is different. If it was Russia’s turn it could be Saudi Arabia’s next, or whomever.

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            Russia is special in the West and I don’t think anyone has any illusions about that. No one except maybe China is comparable to Russia as the ebil spoopy bad guyz

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      Not really, this has more to do with its size and the fact that they’re forcing themselves on a desperate Russia.

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        1 year ago

        Trade with Russia is not %50 of China’s trade. It’s much less than that.

        This is de-dollarization in motion.

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          Nobody said it was, but Russia is a major oil supplier to them, it used to be done in US dollars but given the current situation China has been able to force them to use the yuan. Its not like theyre able to pull this off against the major western countries. A lot of their previous yuan based trade was with Hong Kong, North Korea, etc.

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        1 year ago

        Sure, the undermining of the most advanced economy in the history of the world only started happening since the US started putting sanctions on Russia. Nothing to do with the preceding decades.